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mister_wizzz
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| surfguy wrote: | History of classical music
Medieval (476 – 1400)
Renaissance (1400 – 1600)
Baroque (1600 – 1760)
Classical (1730 – 1820)
Romantic (1815 – 1910)
20th century (1900 – 2000)
Contemporary classical music (1975 – present)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_classical_music
here is some good info on classical music and it;s origins
Most is not from Italy |
You are talking about styles, of course Italians didn't invent all of them.
The more obvious proof that Classical music is coming from Italy are the technical terms, I hope you notice that all of them are italian words. |
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nikir
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| Quote: | | I hope you notice that all of them are italian words. |
mister_wizzz put that cat back into the bag. After all the resident expert on everything has already observed that "most are not Italian"
So I guess the likes of allegro, pianissimo and forte will have to will have to be relegated to the Fiat basket and fixed again on a daily basis by a greasy cry baby named Tony. |
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mister_wizzz
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| nikir wrote: | | Quote: | | I hope you notice that all of them are italian words. |
mister_wizzz put that cat back into the bag. After all the resident expert on everything has already observed that "most are not Italian"
So I guess the likes of allegro, pianissimo and forte will have to will have to be relegated to the Fiat basket and fixed again on a daily basis by a greasy cry baby named Tony. |
I will also relagate myself to the FIAT basket, coz I am a bit tired to argue on obvious issues  |
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jo-jo-7
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| mister_wizzz wrote: | The fact Pocherin insulted Russia doesn't give you the right to insult Italy and Italians. By the way, I could understand if you were Russian but you are not.
If you go to Italy you will realize that most people there are not greasy, nor cry babies (they talk too much, it is not the same thing).
They also build the FIAT, that's right, but they also build Ferrari and Lanborghini.
I remind you Italians invented art in Europe, and St Petersbourg has been designed by Italian (and french) architecs. |
Italians invented Italian Art... |
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surfguy
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| Quote: | The Classical period in Western music occurred from about 1730 to 1820, despite considerable overlap at both ends with preceding and following periods, as is true for all musical eras. Although the term classical music is used as a blanket term meaning all kinds of music in this tradition, it can also occasionally mean this particular era within that tradition.
The Classical period falls between the Baroque and the Romantic periods. Probably the best known composers from this period are Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Joseph Haydn, and Ludwig van Beethoven, though other notable names include Muzio Clementi, Johann Ladislaus Dussek, Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, and Christoph Willibald Gluck. Beethoven is also regarded either as a Romantic composer or a composer who was part of the transition to the Romantic; Franz Schubert is also something of a transitional figure. The period is sometimes referred to as Viennese Classic, since Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, and Schubert all worked at some time in Vienna. |
I'm by no means an expert but because the question on Classical Music did arise...I did some research. And low and behold I easily found the answer. I'm not here to argue and really the case is already made by the experts. I'm not here to debate the influence of the Italians on the world. But Remember this...at the time of the Roman Empire there was another Empire of equal realm. It's called Parthia. Rome could never ever defeat Parthia. Just as Rome could never fully control the British Isles. My point is this: There is a lot more to the world than the history being told from a Holy Roman Perspective. The statement was made that the Italians helped to push classical music and art to perfection...which they did...but as stated they helped. There were a lot of other influences and still continue to be. Lets not all be so naive and appreciate what all of the world has provided to our human experience. |
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surfguy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The civilization of the ancient Greeks has been immensely influential on the language, politics, educational systems, philosophy, science, art and architecture of the modern world, fueling the Renaissance in Western Europe and again resurgent during various neo-classical revivals in 18th and 19th century Europe and The Americas. |
Did the Italians inherit thier musical and other artistic inspirations from the greeks...certainly would seem that way!
None the less I do appreciate Classical Music...and Operas, and Ballet, and art, and antiquities. My time spent in St Petersburg furthered this appreciation. And certainly the Russian influence on Art and literature has been an impressive one. |
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