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darthvader
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UsualSuspect
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 Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: Way out of date.. |
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Hmmm...Petrol was up to 14 RUR last time I was there.
Ciggies were the same price 
Beer hasn't changed 
Bread was up around 8-12 RUR per small loaf
Vodka has taken about a 15% increase (100 RUR to 120 RUR for a nice bot).
Train fares have been subject to outrageous price hikes and seasonal fiddling over the years.
I would say those prices were from at least 3-4 years ago.
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overseas_expat
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In Moscow, I would say those prices are gross underestimates. The biggest gaps between their costs and real prices are food, transportation and housing. Big gaps. Not even close.
And really of the things on the list food, transportation, and housing are the big 3 basic necessities. So perhaps it is fair to say that the cost of necessities has risen much faster than the cost of luxuries. |
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Wicked
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: So out of date, i'm nostalgic |
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| Petrol is 20 rub half a year ago, for example. A nice one room apartment in Moscow is from $800. |
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darthvader
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: So out of date, i'm nostalgic |
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| Wicked wrote: | | Petrol is 20 rub half a year ago, for example. A nice one room apartment in Moscow is from $800. |
You mean renting $800/month?
From the above link: "One can buy a house in a small village for 500~1000$US with no major difficulty"
Is this serious?? |
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Wicked
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: Re: So out of date, i'm nostalgic |
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| darthvader wrote: | | Wicked wrote: | | Petrol is 20 rub half a year ago, for example. A nice one room apartment in Moscow is from $800. |
You mean renting $800/month?
From the above link: "One can buy a house in a small village for 500~1000$US with no major difficulty"
Is this serious?? |
I do mean renting. In Moscow the price of housing skyrocketed during the past few years. You can still buy a country house for $1000 in a small village, but not the american kinda house with amenities and stuff.
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gomer
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| Looks like plenty of food in markets and supermarkets, if Muscovites can afford to buy it. |
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Wicked
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| I don't know how many of you are aware of this, but after being the second most expensive city in the world after Tokio for several years, a year ago Moscow has finally made it to the top. The plus is that if you do have dough you can buy anything in Moscow, caviar, sable fur, Bentleys, u name it. |
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overseas_expat
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Swell, so you can buy Bentley's in Moscow. I'm supposed to be impressed by this?
I read in some news article somewhere that Russia had so few rich people (no matter how often all ten of them make the news) that out of 100% of the population, their number was so small as to be statistically insignificant.
You may be able to buy fancy stuff, but what you can't buy--as of April 1-- is decent food or cheap stuff from rynoks. The Russians have run out all the Azeri and Uzbek and Georgians and Kazaks who sell stuff. What the stupid racist Russian government failed to take into account when they passed the No More Foreign Vendor law, was that these same foreigners also had the fast track to the supply chain. Tomatoes and fruit from Uzbekistan, spices and vegetables from Azerbaijan, shoes and clothes from Tuirkey and whatnot. All gone. Gone, gone, gone.
Perhaps I should roast up a Bentley for supper? I'm having a real hard time finding decent fresh food. |
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yorbcbud
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You may be able to buy fancy stuff, but what you can't buy--as of April 1-- is decent food or cheap stuff from rynoks. The Russians have run out all the Azeri and Uzbek and Georgians and Kazaks who sell stuff. What the stupid racist Russian government failed to take into account when they passed the No More Foreign Vendor law, was that these same foreigners also had the fast track to the supply chain. Tomatoes and fruit from Uzbekistan, spices and vegetables from Azerbaijan, shoes and clothes from Tuirkey and whatnot. All gone. Gone, gone, gone.
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I saw a bit on the CBC about that. That is really a stupid move. They shut down all but the stands of Russian residents. Some of the markets had only one or two booths open. What a silly thing to do. |
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Wicked
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| Sorry guys, didn't know you were so bitter about it. All the veggies and Azers and all those people are still in place if it mellows you out. |
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vitalsigns
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| But the other side of the coin is Azers, Tadjiks and Uzbeks (mostly Azers) have brought quite a bit of crime to Russia along with their fresh produce. If I had to choose between the fresh tomatos and criminal elements I'd choose neither since they go hand in hand in their case. |
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vitalsigns
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| overseas_expat wrote: |
Perhaps I should roast up a Bentley for supper? I'm having a real hard time finding decent fresh food. |
If you can afford doing this my question to you is "Are you still single?"  |
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tuller
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: train fare |
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We're flying to Russia next month so my wife and the twins can visit their famly and friends which we do on the average of twice a year.
We were there 6 months ago and the overnight train from Moscow to their city tickets were (and as the twins say, compartment behind the door), was $45.00 each for my wife and myself and the twins about one half of that.
We purchased our tickets a few weeks ago for this trip ..adult price is now $70.00 each and twin price now is $40.00 each.
Her family tells her that the price of food has had a huge increase in their city since our last visit There seems to be plenty of food in their stores and markets but the price increase has hurt the good people's buying power.
The last trip when we were in Moscow we noticed a large increase in prices in the clothing stores and resturants.
We were in the Gum Mall on a Saturday and it was almost empty of people.
We then went in the underground mall, cant' spell the name, and it was almost empty. All the trendy clothing stores had few if any people shopping in them and Arbat Street just had a few lookers.
In my wife's much smaller city than Moscow the prices were much lower and more people were in the stores shopping.
Our apartment rental in Moscow has also increased about 50%.
The twins are now use to shopping here in the US , They saw Reeboks in a store just like they wear for $135.00 and we buy for $29.95. Even at their young ages they made the comment that something was wrong with the Russia government now and why do they allow such high prices for the low salaried people.
I wonder this too, but I'm not Russian , and I do love my extended family and friends over there and I definitely have concerns for them.
My wife and I support her very old in age mother that lives in a small village. When we visit her and her many wondrful friends there, my wife and I both leave with much saddeness because of their low low lifestyle.
Our twins are getting at the age now where they notice all these things .
They want their granny mum living with us here in the US...If she would make the move and I could swing it with the governement...I would bring her back home with us or go back and get her in the skip of a heart beat.
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mister_wizzz
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| It seems that Moscow attracts everything of Russia : business, people, money etc... A so huge country and everything is concentrated in the 2 major cities. Russia is sick of Moscow and St Petersburg. |
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