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Atomcat
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Joined: 30 Jul 2004
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| You are so flippin negative judgemental. Not every women in Russia is a scammer. Yes, I was in their shoes, I would like to marry someone that has some money to make life better. Would you? Just because they want someone that is financial stable, does not make them a gold digger. Honestly, stop being negative. Yes, there are scammers and Yes Russian women have to deal with Winstons. Yes, there is huge problem with sex exploitation of these girls. But if you are smart, positive and good attitude then you will find a good person in any country. Mogsfan, all I hear from you is angst. Is life that sh*tty for you really? PM the real problem, not angst. You are smart guy, but you have to get this hateful, neagtive angst out your system. Life isn't that bad. You could be a wildabeast in Africa. Mogsfan, who screwed you over? You have LOTS of potential, but man you have to get rid that self destruct mode!! |
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tuller
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You tell him Atomcat...I can't...I'm to mad lol lol
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wavetossed
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All this arguing misses the main point.
He wants to understand Russian women. This can only be done by communicating with Russian women and learning about them and their culture and visiting Russia. This requires learning the Russian language.
Once you have learned some Russian, you will be able to communicate with Russian people, use Russian search engines like rambler.ru, watch Russian films like Dzhentlemeny Udachi, and read Russian web pages.
There are all kinds of support tools like the dictionaries at Rambler, the Promt machine translation tools at translation1.paralink.com, the word lists at multitran.ru and the language info at www.gramota.ru.
You don't need to be fluent in Russian to gain the benefits. Once you know basic Russian, you can leverage the Promt machine translator. Someone who knows no Russian will find the machine translation hard to understand an often misleading. But if you speak basic Russian, you can read the machine translation and then REREAD THE RUSSIAN TEXT and understand it directly. |
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Olgako
Just Starting
Joined: 20 Nov 2004
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Location: London
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:39 am Post subject: From a Russian girl |
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Guys,
I am a Russian girl of 26 who has an Austrian boyfriend now. Just wanted to share one more reason why Russian women look for men from abroad - we just don't have enough decent men!
E.g. in Moscow there are 55% of women vs 45% of men. In the regions (especially villages) men are in addition very often alkoholics which reduces the number even further...
So many women go to Internet to look for husbands or boyfriends and very often the marriage agencies with foreign men dominate the market 
Really - read the info about Russian women on this web-site - I found it fantastic and showed it to my boyfriend so he knows better They describe here perfectly all types of women in Russia who seek foreign men.
Personally I have had more foreign boyfriends than Russian because I studied languages and was often abroad. While in Moscow, it was very difficult for me to meet a nice Russian guy cos all nice guys had girlfriends already! (well, I should say that I am rather good looking so that was not the reason)
Anyways, if you are afraid to be cheated by a woman, then come to see her yourself and don't give her expensive presents: flowers will always do! it is one of the best ways to please a woman in Russia! Also if you invite a woman out, usually it is the man who pays - that is a kind of rule. After you develop some trust, then you can show your generosity if you want.
Hope it helps! |
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Dr-Fauste
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In your age group, there is little difference between the number of women and number of men. Only 1/9 men are considered to be alcoholics and probably there is just many women also. So you are telling us that you cannot find a good man in all of Russia. All these women who look like models on these dating sites cannot find a single man in Russia.
So gives us the REAL reason!!! |
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spartacus
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| Jesus, what a jerk. |
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Dr-Fauste
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Why?
Not every Russian man is an alcoholic. There is an equal amount of Russian Women as men under the age of 35. So her reasoning is invalid. It is the same you looking overseas. There are almost women as men in USA, so how come Spartacus has to look to Russia? |
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spartacus
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| You are a jerk because within 5 posts you are telling a Russian girl about her life, and why she is wrong about the facts of it. Unless you are a russian girl yourself, how can you tell her she is wrong? You may as well complete your foolishness by telling her what her birthday is. |
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Dr-Fauste
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| Quote: | | You are a jerk because within 5 posts you are telling a Russian girl about her life, and why she is wrong about the facts of it. Unless you are a russian girl yourself, how can you tell her she is wrong? You may as well complete your foolishness by telling her what her birthday is. |
Can you read? I said that the rasons she stated are generic and not valid. There are good men in Russia and maybe she is interestedin this guy he has quality that she loves. Russian versus West is crap. You are just as liklely to find your future wife or husband on the street. Facts are facts.
Spartacus, you are quick to insult, but cannot answer questions. So why can't you find your soul mate in the Goood OLe USA? Why are you looking in Russia. |
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Mogsfan
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| Quote: | In your age group, there is little difference between the number of women and number of men. Only 1/9 men are considered to be alcoholics and probably there is just many women also. So you are telling us that you cannot find a good man in all of Russia. All these women who look like models on these dating sites cannot find a single man in Russia.
So gives us the REAL reason!!! |
Good points. |
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uday
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Spartacus, you are quick to insult, but cannot answer questions. So why can't you find your soul mate in the Goood OLe USA? Why are you looking in Russia. |
Excellent point, doc! |
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Randy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: ratio's |
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I don't know much on the stastitics ratio of men to women, or the ratio's of alcoholics in Russia other than what I read. But I do know that when an official government, or private agency reports these so called facts they rely on census taking for ratio's for the men to women percentage, and for the ratio's of alcoholics it is only the reported cases they know. Even if the percentages of men (55%) to women (45%) is true, as Olga stated, there are still plenty of eligible men to choose from that are not alcoholics, drug addicts, etc.
I believe that most people have a basic way of life that restricts their options when it comes to meeting their prospective mate. Most people have to get up every morning, go to work, and on their time off they persue their personal interest, like sports, camping, nightclubbing, and so on, and it is usually a repetative routine. After all, you only have so much time to devote to you pleasures. So, the only prospective mate you will meet is in this circle of people, with an occasional new comer. When I hear people say that can't find a good man, or good women, it seems ilodgical to me to look in another country. I am not putting down marriage agencies, or the singles column in the news papers. It just would seem easier to change my habits, look for new interest that would allow me to meet more people, which would in turn give me a better chance to find a mate, if that was what I was looking for.
If a person wants to use the Internet to locate a mate, nothing wrong with that for them, but I don't see it as the best way, just the easiest. I think the best way is the old fashion way, up close, personal dating, and courting, for a reasonable amount of time, to really get to know the person. This isn't going to happen when looking for a mate in Russia, and using a marriage/dating service. That is unless you plan on spending a year or so in country.
I live in a town with less than 800 people, and there are far more men than women here. Before getting married, even in my little town, I dated several ladies here. So, using the stastistics used by Olga on eligible men/women who are not alcoholics in all of Russia just doesn't seem lodgical.
I agree with Doc Fauste. |
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cyndy22
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You know the saying...
the grass is always greener on the other side.
Does Russian language have an equivalent expression? I am sure it does.
In fact what ever the Russian equivalent, that is what Russian women are in most cases yearning for. |
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Olgako
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Well, I liked Randy's reasoning. I did have quite a routine life in Mow with work&study all day long and spent week-ends mostly with my parents and a few close friends. Probably if I did more efforts to socialise more, I would have had more chances
Still I do believe the number of educated, interesting and nice girls outweighs the number of men of the same qualities in Moscow.
I have a lot of girlfriends, very nice and decent people, and they couldn't find a boyfriend (of similar life styles and education) for quite long. Maybe some other Moscovites will have a different opinion but that was my situation.
P.S. My boyfriend thinks that Russians in a relationship are not very different from European girls. (Though we do expect flowers from men from time to time and occasional presents (small things - just to show your feelings and attention), we also like when you help us out of a taxi/bus and when you help to put on a coat).
He also told me that for him a woman's education, family and a job situation (or previous jobs) would help to understand at least initially what to expect. |
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Dr-Fauste
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| Yes, but that is not any different than in North America. So other media allows for single people to meet and interact. Both the Russian and North American lifestyle are causing people not to meet and interact. So it is not a case that there is not any good men and women left, but ability to interact with them in a secure social environment. AKA we are too busy. |
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