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did you support Yeltsen? yes  40%  [ 4 ] no  60%  [ 6 ] Total Votes : 10
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Boris Yeltsen Dies Anyone care to comment...? I guess this definitely will be big news
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solis Talk Show Host Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Wandering	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: I wasn't for Yeltsin or anyone else who had to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. I really do think he was Russia's version of Bush/Clinton. First thing that came to my mind when i heard he was dead was, "Can i get a HOO RAH!?"
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Not sure on Yeltsen...he did put putin in power whether that's good or bad..and the corruption around him is supposedly great...but is that anything new...Oligarchs came to power under him...but what else is new for Russia...wealth has always been in the hands of a few. Anyway I do know that a lot of Russian people think illy of him. But yes he did allow for change in Russia and this could be good. I guess history will judge him best
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darthvader WayToRussified Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 427	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Do ruling Russian governments ever create a climate where past Presidents/General Secretaries are revered? Say, in the last 90 years?
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Just heard some interesting perspectives on Yeltsen...and I wonder if Russians think that they were the free-est under his rule? Looks as though Putin is rolling back so much of what Yeltsen helped to create
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solis Talk Show Host Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Wandering	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: If ruining the Russian economy were a marvel comic book, Gorbachev would be Batman and Yeltsin would be Robin.
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darthvader WayToRussified Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 427	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: solis wrote: If ruining the Russian economy were a marvel comic book, Gorbachev would be Batman and Yeltsin would be Robin. I see. Where do Stalin, Kruschev, Brezhnev, Putin, and the two oldies in the 80s fit in? Surely there are comic books for all topics, not just economics. When was life the best? Under Kruschev? Just interested.
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solis Talk Show Host Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Wandering	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: darthvader wrote: solis wrote: If ruining the Russian economy were a marvel comic book, Gorbachev would be Batman and Yeltsin would be Robin. I see. Where do Stalin, Kruschev, Brezhnev, Putin, and the two oldies in the 80s fit in? Surely there are comic books for all topics, not just economics. When was life the best? Under Kruschev? Just interested. Are you gonna sit there and honestly tell me you thought the Soviet Union was worse off before Gorbachev? Putin has done good for Russia's economy. I don't remember saying anything good about Brezhnev either. And i don't really know enough about Kruschev to make an opinion about him. The economy may had been bad before, but Gorbachev made it take the nose dive it did. It would be better for a economy of stagnation under Brezhnev than one that wasn't being cared for at all.
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Can't put the blame on Gorbachev solely...Russia had an inflated economy the Gorbachev inhiereted...Russia has never really even seen a stable economy...but perhaps now it will...I hope so
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 2784	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: I recall how embarrassed I was for Russia every time Eltsin spoke on the national TV. Sort of like some of you are embarrassed when Bush speaks. Eltsin was the worst speaker you can find. He talked like a country boy who drinks heavily every day... Oh, wait, that's who he was. Ahhhh... good memories.
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solis Talk Show Host Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Wandering	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: vitalsigns wrote: I recall how embarrassed I was for Russia every time Eltsin spoke on the national TV. Sort of like some of you are embarrassed when Bush speaks. Eltsin was the worst speaker you can find. He talked like a country boy who drinks heavily every day... Oh, wait, that's who he was. Ahhhh... good memories. In a nutshell, Yeltsin was Bush's brother from another mother.
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 2784	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: solis wrote: vitalsigns wrote: I recall how embarrassed I was for Russia every time Eltsin spoke on the national TV. Sort of like some of you are embarrassed when Bush speaks. Eltsin was the worst speaker you can find. He talked like a country boy who drinks heavily every day... Oh, wait, that's who he was. Ahhhh... good memories. In a nutshell, Yeltsin was Bush's brother from another mother. Or his twin brother separated at birth. I do know how to explain the age difference though...
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PhillipFromTexas Frequent Guest Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 49	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Eltsin was like Bush? So from this comparison you make between Eltsin and Bush, we are to believe that Eltsin was: not very smart; had a limited ability for compassion; was mean; and, could possibly be the worst leader for the nation's entire history? I am just asking. I am an American, who knows Bush too well and only a little of Eltsin. From what I know I would guess that Eltsin was much, much smarter than Bush; had real compassion for his people; had a huge heart; and, lead a nation that seems to be constantly re-making itself. Peace out. Филипп
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solis Talk Show Host Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Wandering	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Eltsin was like Bush? PhillipFromTexas wrote: So from this comparison you make between Eltsin and Bush, we are to believe that Eltsin was: not very smart; had a limited ability for compassion; was mean; and, could possibly be the worst leader for the nation's entire history? I am just asking. I am an American, who knows Bush too well and only a little of Eltsin. From what I know I would guess that Eltsin was much, much smarter than Bush; had real compassion for his people; had a huge heart; and, lead a nation that seems to be constantly re-making itself. Peace out. Филипп We can't really force you to think what we think of him, but if you really want to make an opinion of him for yourself based on your own morals, feel free to Read up on him and decide for yourself.
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darthvader WayToRussified Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 427	Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: solis wrote: darthvader wrote: solis wrote: If ruining the Russian economy were a marvel comic book, Gorbachev would be Batman and Yeltsin would be Robin. I see. Where do Stalin, Kruschev, Brezhnev, Putin, and the two oldies in the 80s fit in? Surely there are comic books for all topics, not just economics. When was life the best? Under Kruschev? Just interested. Quote: Are you gonna sit there and honestly tell me you thought the Soviet Union was worse off before Gorbachev? Nup. Why do you want me to do that? I'm no expert. Inform me. Quote: Putin has done good for Russia's economy. Great. I know he has. Quote: I don't remember saying anything good about Brezhnev either. Why not? I am trying to learn here. Quote: And i don't really know enough about Kruschev to make an opinion about him. Nor do I, that's why I was hoping you'd tell me. However, geopolitically, the USSR seemed to be at the peak of its global powers just before the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. Confidence was up, USSR was very active in the supporting many Communist interests worldwide. No doubt the economy was booming? Then, Communism seemed like a possible system for much of the world. Then 1962. Were Russians the happiest back before then? Quote: The economy may had been bad before, but Gorbachev made it take the nose dive it did. Agreed. I just wanted to know if Russian quality of life (for "all" Russians) was much better say under Stalin (in the early 50s) compared to under Yeltsin? When were the best times? Quote: It would be better for a economy of stagnation under Brezhnev than one that wasn't being cared for at all. Sounds logical. Do you still don't mind telling me when life was the best for Russians in the last 90 years? I am guessing somewhere in Kruschev's rule. Not just talking economy here. Talking quality of life - which includes a few variables. However, Russia certainly is a powerful economy again. Hopefully "all" Russians will reap the rewards from such growth. Maybe the best times will be soon? Or not?
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