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leaving my car in russia

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h4nne5 Just Starting Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 2	Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: leaving my car in russia i own a 18year old Mercedes 350TD 4WD hatchback. The car is pretty cool and was worth a lot once but is slowly falling apart. water & oil leaks, starter problems... it's to many things to make it worth fixing & selling or keeping, so next time something major breaks down it will be scraped. But before that happens i would love to drive this car through russia with a friend, towards vladivostok. i have 2 months time this summer. i have searched the internet and read about 20 topics on this forum about something like this. what it comes down to is: i would enter russia (coming from Estonia or Latvia) getting a temporary permit (for the car), stay a night in StP, register my visa, extend the cars temp permit to be valid 1 month (as the tourist visa) and then head east. the end result being we arrive in vladivostok with the car or the car breaks down somewhere on the road and we leave it there. either way, i want to leave the car in russia (should it still work in vladivostok it is not worth shipping it back to italy). after reading all the posts (about the two guys driving to australia someone met in turkey; and some good posts of dittrich, rtourist and leelee) i dont think selling it (provided it would make it all the way) is not an option. taxes are to high. i dont want all the import hassles (specially because if the car breaks on the way down i'm left with $$$ taxes and no car to sell). the car may look good on paper (more taxes) but is worth shit. so the only options left are pretending it got stolen once we arrive in vladivostok (i wouldnt really feel comfortable pulling that off on the other side of the world, not even speaking russian, plus i couldnt find any info on how such a thing gets handled anyways; paperwork, import tax?, police; leelee had some ideas on the topic, but nothing concrete) or legally sell it to the breakers either in vladivostok or somewhere along the way. But i cant find any information on this topic. i tried calling both the italian and the russian embassy, search the net, searched the forum. nothing! can someone please give me a clue? would i still need to pay import taxes (i think so. why should the russian state care who you sell the car to? be it breakers or a car market) before i can sell or even give it away for free to the breakers? all i found was this forum post http://www.plaudern.de/a.prg?akt=82228913&for=2535&btr=5947&nap=1704&dow=4&dom=0&rnd=9813 in german. it says you would need to get some documents from the breakers, some papers from the local police office and then bring it all to the customs office to get the car cancelled. but it's very unspecific. has someone got some accurate information? thanks
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DITTRICH WayToRussified Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 429 Location: London UK	Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: a tourist visa is worth a maximum of 30 days and you won't get to Vladivostock in 30 days unless you spend most of your time driving. You need a business visa multi-entry best in case of any problems. The procedures for scrapping a car in russia without importing it is something I would not consider viable an I'm sorry I have no concrete information on this subject. No-one really knows whether the unexported car problem would return to haunt you if you ever returned to russia after the trip. To do things officially would require a trip to the police and teh customs and you don't speak russian. If you are dead set on doing this then I have a suspicion that taking teh ferry to Japan and offloading the car there might prove less bureacratic hassle although at some cost. Note: doing things properly costs time and money. Rgds Les
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h4nne5 Just Starting Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 2	Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: mmh thanks for the reply! actually the idea was to spend most of the time in the car driving. have you seen vanishing point? kinda like that, but without the police and with an other ending :) one variation of the plan actually was to be 4 ppl and just drive and never stop until either the car or we cant take it anymore (not very realistic tough, more of a dream). but anyways, its about the driving, not the sightseeing. so 30 day should be ok. and i read the route passing in the north of mongolia is finished. so we wouldnt need multiple entry business visas. taking the ferry to japan is to expensive and wouldnt really solve the problem. any russian import-lawyer with some information on leaving cars behind in russia :)?
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