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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Daria wrote: surfguy wrote: it's all a matter of what we want in life That's right. But it's sad to see women that change their mind of what they want in life. And usually it's too late....... What’s worse is when kid graduates from the high school and his folks are in the retirement home and can’t attend. very true...kids!
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Daria Lounge Wizard Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 1146 Location: Canada	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: surfguy wrote: ok...but if it's a genetic disorder then those risk apply only if the gene is in the family? No. Down syndrome is a genetic disorder caused by the presence of an extra 21st chromosom. It doesn't run in the family.
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jo-jo-7 Just Starting Joined: 16 Mar 2010 Posts: 6	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Daria wrote: jo jo 7 wrote: [ Now, to the babies, I have seen alot of younger people have down syndrome babies than women in their 40's and it is because older women take better care of themselves. Younger women abuse their bodies more. Younger women don't eat, take vitamins, they smoke and drink. You can have a best life style ever, take vitamins, stop drinking and smoking, however, it has nothing to do with preventing " Down syndrome". Down syndrome is not a birth defect. As far as I understand it is a genetic disorder. It is hereditary mostly. It is caused by an extra chromosome in the gene, #21. Technology has done alot to prevent it too. You don't see down-syndrome as much since Researchers have been able to stop the gene during development. 1 in 1000 babies will get it, also down-syndrome people who are able to function a normal lifestyle are having children and that gene carries on whether you are 20 or 40.... Age has nothing to do with down-syndrome
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Miami WayToRussified Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 340	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:28 am    Post subject: Daria wrote: Miami wrote: Daria wrote: Miami wrote: Daria, if I can ask, did you grow up in Russia? I was just wondering about that. Yes I did. I left Russia nine years ago. Cool, what part of Russia are you from? I am from the Black sea area. Wow that must be nice there. Someday I want to visit the Chornae More area, that would be so cool.
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Miami WayToRussified Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 340	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: jo jo 7 wrote: MrSpice wrote: I think the age of 25-28 is better for marriage. Statistically, those who marry earlyu are more likely to be divorced. I think the best ages for marriage is in your 30's. This way most of your partying is done, your college is done, and you are working a career that allows you to invest and save money. That is a good point Jo Jo. Really, I think it varies from person to person. My cousin got married right after high school at age 19, and they're still married almost 20 years later. On the other hand, some people might not be ready to get married for one reason or another until age 35 or even age 45!
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jo-jo-7 Just Starting Joined: 16 Mar 2010 Posts: 6	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: Daria wrote: jo jo 7 wrote: [ Now, to the babies, I have seen alot of younger people have down syndrome babies than women in their 40's and it is because older women take better care of themselves. Younger women abuse their bodies more. Younger women don't eat, take vitamins, they smoke and drink. You can have a best life style ever, take vitamins, stop drinking and smoking, however, it has nothing to do with preventing " Down syndrome". Down syndrome is not a birth defect. As far as I understand it is a genetic disorder. At maternal age 20 to 24, the risk is 1/1490; at age 40 the risk is 1/60, and at age 49 the risk is 1/11. Other than maternal age, no other risk factors are known. Daria, where are you getting your info? 1 in 1000 babies will get down-syndrome and it has nothing to do with age. It is genetic and hereditary. I don't know any woman in their 30's and 40's who had a Downs child here and this is the South where woman are baby machines. My mother had my brother at 42 years old and she was as healthy as an ox. I know a woman who just turned 61 and gave birth to a healthy baby 2 months ago. Age is not a factor. You should read about Chromosome 21.
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Daria Lounge Wizard Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 1146 Location: Canada	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: jo jo 7 wrote: Daria, where are you getting your info? 1 in 1000 babies will get down-syndrome and it has nothing to do with age. It is genetic and hereditary. I don't know any woman in their 30's and 40's who had a Downs child here and this is the South where woman are baby machines. My mother had my brother at 42 years old and she was as healthy as an ox. I know a woman who just turned 61 and gave birth to a healthy baby 2 months ago. Age is not a factor. You should read about Chromosome 21. It is a common knowledge. http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/downsyndrome.cfm#TheOccurrence
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krasatulya VIP Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 590	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: jo jo 7 wrote: I think the best ages for marriage is in your 30's. This way most of your partying is done, your college is done, and you are working a career that allows you to invest and save money. Unless you got an early start on things. Personally, I got my partying out of my system pretty early, graduated from college in under and 4 years...so I guess the natural progression was to marry under 25 But certainly to each his own. My husband and I are fortunate to be financially stable and have the same mentality when it comes to finances, so that is rarely a source of arguments
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jo-jo-7 Just Starting Joined: 16 Mar 2010 Posts: 6	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Daria wrote: jo jo 7 wrote: Daria, where are you getting your info? 1 in 1000 babies will get down-syndrome and it has nothing to do with age. It is genetic and hereditary. I don't know any woman in their 30's and 40's who had a Downs child here and this is the South where woman are baby machines. My mother had my brother at 42 years old and she was as healthy as an ox. I know a woman who just turned 61 and gave birth to a healthy baby 2 months ago. Age is not a factor. You should read about Chromosome 21. It is a common knowledge. http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/downsyndrome.cfm#TheOccurrence I read it and it is hereditary. The male and the female have to carry gene 21 to have a downs child. The age factor they are talking about is if you are a carrier of 21 then it could increase as you get older but you have to carry the gene and the carrier had to have parents or grandparents who were down syndrome themselves to pass it on. You have to carry the gene it doesn't mean that if you have a child at 45 that child will have downs. Age doesn't make down babies, genetics does.
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MrSpice Lounge Wizard Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 3431	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: jo jo - I read as well in many artciles that the likelihood of having a baby with down syndrom increases with mother's age, especially after 30. I don't understand why you argue with Darya when it's a scientific and common knowledge. Read the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome#Incidence Here is an excerpt: "Maternal age influences the risk of conceiving a baby with Down syndrome. At maternal age 20 to 24, the risk is 1/1490; at age 40 the risk is 1/60, and at age 49 the risk is 1/11. Although the risk increases with maternal age, 80% of children with Down syndrome are born to women under the age of 35,[15] reflecting the overall fertility of that age group. Other than maternal age, no other risk factors are known. There does not appear to be a paternal age effect." In general, it's better for a woman to have a baby before 30. After 35, there is a whole bunch of additional tests that a woman needs to go through if she wants to have a baby (at least, they are highly recommended). Obviously, many women have babies after the age of 40 nowadays. We are talking about likelyhood/probability of health issues for the baby. There are many artciles about it online and in the press. My wife is 30, so I know well about this issue and encourage my wife to think about having a baby soon...
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MrSpice Lounge Wizard Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 3431	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: jo jo: Another one University of California at San Francisco, one of the best medical schools and hospitals in the US: http://www.ucsfhealth.org/childrens/medical_services/preg/prenatal/conditions/down/signs.html "Generally, the chance of having a Down syndrome birth depends on the mother's age. The odds of having a child with Down syndrome at age 35 are about 1 in 350. Under age 25, the odds are about 1 in 1,400. At age 40, the odds are about 1 in 100."
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jo-jo-7 Just Starting Joined: 16 Mar 2010 Posts: 6	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: MrSpice wrote: jo jo: Another one University of California at San Francisco, one of the best medical schools and hospitals in the US: http://www.ucsfhealth.org/childrens/medical_services/preg/prenatal/conditions/down/signs.html "Generally, the chance of having a Down syndrome birth depends on the mother's age. The odds of having a child with Down syndrome at age 35 are about 1 in 350. Under age 25, the odds are about 1 in 1,400. At age 40, the odds are about 1 in 100." Spicey, that report is only explaining down-syndrome to people who are carrying gene 21. It is only explaining what gene 21 is and why people have down syndrome children. Both parents had to carry gene 21 to pass it on to there children. It increases in age but age is not a factor in down-syndrome if you are not carrying gene 21. You need to read the articles again. It explains down syndrome and gene 21, but it is for people who have it and at risk for down syndrome. It is like me, I have redhair right, well it does not mean I will have a redheaded child because it is a recessive gene and in order for me to have a redheaded child I would have to get with a man who is a carrier of the red gene. The gene 21 is the same thing both parents have to have it to pass it on to the child but it does not mean the child will grow up and pass it on but the gene does increase as they get older which means if you should get with a person who is carrying it then the chances are higher. It only looks as if the odds are higher because 1 in a 100 looks risky when not 1 in a 100 at 45 are not having children because they been there and done that. The risk of down syndrome is higher officially in younger women because they are having more children and that is at 75%. If women "wanted" to bare children at 45 then the odds would change and it would be the same as the 1 in 1400. The key is if they wanted too, but they don't because they want to go on vacation and get lost somewhere in the Pacific.... I read alot of articles on this and I have studied genes before. You guys are only reading the results or research on the gene itself for those who carry it. Down syndrome is not caused by older women in general only ones who carry the gene that causes it. my opinion
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Daria Lounge Wizard Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 1146 Location: Canada	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: jo jo 7 wrote: It is like me, I have redhair right, well it does not mean I will have a redheaded child because it is a recessive gene and in order for me to have a redheaded child I would have to get with a man who is a carrier of the red gene. 1 in 4 chance of having a redhead child.
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Fire_Goddess Guest	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Daria wrote: 1 in 4 chance of having a redhead child. My mom is a redhead, and neither of her parents, or grandparents had red hair, and out of my mothers 4 kids, none of us has red hair either.
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Daria Lounge Wizard Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 1146 Location: Canada	Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Fire_Goddess wrote: Daria wrote: 1 in 4 chance of having a redhead child. My mom is a redhead, and neither of her parents, or grandparents had red hair, and out of my mothers 4 kids, none of us has red hair either. The Dominant Gene can skip a generation or maybe two, will hide in the Family Tree until the time is right to carry the message, then return to the fold when there are shoulders ready to carry the head and the hair.
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