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Kitten

Well I live in america. I was born and raised here. I've never been outside of the U.S., and the thing is, I don't really like the country. I don't like how the government is working and all the hidden agendas it has. I don't like how unhealthy and polluted it is, and how greedy this country is! I would really like to move out of the country one day, sooner rather than later, and I would love to know as much as I can about russia!

Is it a good place to move to? How does the government treat their people? Is the economy well and what jobs will make me a decent living? ( I don't plan on being rich, and I would like to be a housewife so I would preferably like to know about jobs a man could do to support a wife and kids on just his income, but I wouldn't mind working either.)

I have asthma and I am curious also if that is a common disease there like it is here. I am trying to get into natural cures to heal myself rather than conventional medicine. Are natural cures encouraged there? Are vitamins and minerals expensive or becoming outlawed like I hear is to soon be happening in parts of Europe? What kind of food is common there?

I would also like to eat healthier, but here in america, healthy, unprocessed food is very expensive. Is natural produce grown without pesticides cheap there? And unprocessed meats and foods without added chemicals? Here in America, basically all the food you get is made by big companies that add very harmful chemicals to the food to preserve it and make it more addicting so they can sell more of it, and I would like to get ahold of more natural foods. (Why do you think america is the fatest country? lol)

Do you think the people would be friendly to an outsider from AMERICA trying to move into their country? And would anybody happen to know about how much it is for a plane ticket to get from texas to russia?

I told you this would be a long question!

I appreciate any and all answers, and if you have any other bits of information to throw in, even if they don't quite pertain to everything I have asked, that is perfectly fine! Very Happy

Fire_Goddess · Guest

Why dont you just move to another state? Believe it or not pollution in the USA isnt that bad. We also have a convenient variety of organic foods in this country, not to mention reasonably priced farmers markets. Vitamins are also easily gotten in the USA, and cheap. The politics might suck, but we still have alot more conveniences in this country, for people with differing lifestyles. If you really cant stand the USA, try Canada.

surfguy · Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979

you'll never know unless you go...if you are unhappy here...try somewhere new and you just might find ultimate happiness. Yes everything you say is true and Russia is a much better place Laughing

Kitten · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject:

Yes, I have thought about Canada too, and Canada would probably even be more realistic, but I have more of an interest in Russia.

I don't think I could just move to another state. And from what I understand, pharmaceutical companies are trying to patent vitamins and minerals and make it where you need a prescription and they will become very expensive. Plus the government is pretty much completely against natural cures and I don't want my children (when I have them) to take conventional medicine and go to conventional doctors if I don't have to. Did you know if you take your child to a doctor specializing in natural cures it can be a crime and you can have your children taken away? You are only allowed to take them to the alternative doctor if you have taken them to a conventional doctor first and if all the methods they use to treat your child fail. Canada would definitely be the place I consider between that and just moving to another state.
I don't know much about Canada either though.

krasatulya · VIP Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 590

krasatulya · VIP Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 590

Kitten, Russia is a very difficult place to live for people who are born there, let alone those hoping to immigrate there. Unless you plan in immersing yourself in the study of Russian language, which happens to be one of the most difficult ones out there, you will have a very hard time doing basic things which are needed for everyday survival.

It is also a country that relies heavily on the idea of who you know and who can help you out. As a stranger in a strange land, it is almost impossible to make connections that would be necessary to get things done (appointments to the dentist, doctor, etc are all achieved through bribes or knowing someone, or else you could be waiting a long time to see a reputable doctor.)

Many people have this grandiose notion of moving to Russia, as it seems like an exciting faraway place. The reality is, although it is wonderful place rich in culture and history, most people would never cut it living there. I have observed many Russians, and unless you are ridiculously rich or well-connected, you don't really live, you survive.

Kitten · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:27 am Post subject:

Well thank you krasatulya. That is good info to know. I don't know the language, but I'd like to learn. I don't have much money, (no money for a school to learn the language) so I guess I'd be screwed, because I definitely don't know anyone there to have any connections too! lol
Too bad I'm not single or I could just hook up with a rich Russian man! lol jk

A lot of people on here seem very proud of Russia, so I would hope it's not too hard to live there.

Generation-P

Kitten · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:54 am Post subject:

Thank you very much Generation P. That was very informative. I will try searching for information on Denmark and The Netherlands.

In america they add a lot of chemicals, sometimes HUNDREDS of chemicals to food! It's insane! I'll give you some examples to get the point across.

Bread should be just flour, water, yeast, salt, sugar, Just a few ingredients like that, right?

Here is a list of ingredients from a loaf of bread in america that you buy a the typical grocery store:

Enriched bleached flour, wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid, water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, non-fat milk, butter, soybean oil, salt, cultered wheat starch, sodium stearoyl lactylate, ethoxylated mono and diglycerides, mono and diglycerides, ascorbic acid, calcium peroxide, enzymes, soy flour, azodicarbonamide, datem, calcium sulfate, ammonium sulfate, soy lecithin.

I just read that off a loaf of bread and it took me forever to type all that! I can't even pronounce most of those words! 95% of this bread is nothing but chemicals.

Here are the ingredients for salami from the popular oscar mayer company:
Mechanically separated chicken, beef hearts, pork, water, corn syrup, beef, salt, sodium lactate, flavor, sodium phosphates, sodium diacetate, sodium erythorbate, dextrose, sodium nitrite, soy lecithin, potassium phosphate, potassium chloride, sugar.

And our government has a law where the food industry can just write the word "flavor" on a package, and that one word can be referring to over 300 chemicals! That's hundreds of chemicals they can add to our food that they don't even have to tell us about!

If it's hard to believe, just read a food label on something from america.

surfguy · Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979

yorbcbud · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:03 am Post subject:

MrSpice · Lounge Wizard Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 3431

I think this dude is a clueless lunatic. If he has not been outside of the US, he should first travel outside and see what it's like before thinking of moving anywhere. There are enough idiots in other countries already.

Expect for Canada where he can get a job and legal status right away (because of NAFTA), immigrating to other countries is not that easy legally.

Although there may be some places that have a special status for idiots.

Kitten · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:48 am Post subject:

Thank you Mr.Spice for your very kind insight, though I do not completely agree with your belligerent response.

I am THINKING of moving to Russia. I would like to of course visit it first to understand first hand what the living conditions would be like, but before I go, if I even do, because I'm only THINKING about it, I would appreciate information about it from people who live or have been there, to know whether or not it's worth it or if it is in my best interest to go.

It must be nice to travel often. I assume you do since you are so knowledgeable about how many "idiots" occupy other countries.

By the way, I am a female. I think you should inquire more about who a person is and what they are trying to achieve before opening your mouth and trying to seem like you know about something/someone when you don't , and on top of that, being highly negative in the process.

Isn't that what an idiot does?

Kitten · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:06 am Post subject:

On to Yorbcbud and surfguy,

Here in central texas we do have whole food stores, but not near the town I live in. My boyfriends father shops at one. He is a health nut and really likes their products so I'm sure it would be a safe bet! It would just be a matter of getting to one, plus they are a little out of my price range. 0.0

The biggest problem I have is how the government cracks down on alternative doctors and medicine. That would be my main reason for leaving the country. I want to move to a place that is very big in alternative medicine, and I ask about Russia because I hear it is, like someone has already brought up. But of course if you have to struggle to get by there, I won't consider it.

And speaking of making bread, it is something that I plan to try soon.
We have a small place in town that is "kind of" a health food store, but the problem is they don't have all the ingredients I would need to make the bread! Most of their stuff is expensive and has to be ordered!

Thank you for your responses! Smile

yorbcbud · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:02 am Post subject:

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