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markhagelin · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:57 am Post subject: Generation П

In one of the other topics someone mentioned the book "Generation П".

Cool

Generation П
Виктор Пелевин

I found a place to download it for free. It is fiction [I think the person who posted didn't know that]. It can be found at:

http://www.fictionbook.ru/en/author/pelevin_viktor/generation_p/

It is only in Russian and as an rtf file after being unzipped, it is 118 pages. On the download page is a Che Guervera picture.

Mark

Dr Fauste · Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654

That is an awesome link
Owe you beers for that, trees are going to die at work tomorrow !!!!!!

Dan23 · Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:57 am Post subject:

Hmm... the link appears to be dead.

Dan

Mogsfan · WayToRussified Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490

"Che" was a good buddy of Fidel Castro, correct? So, here are our heroes: Bush, Castro, Stalin, Lenin, Clinton, Reagan et al. This disgusts me. I really am considering not participating in this forum anymore. I can't take the stupidity, B.S. and lies. It is depressing and I'm already not feeling that well. If anyone wants to argue with me, don't bother!

Dan23 · Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:53 am Post subject:

Huh? Where did all that come from?

Mogsfan, you can't really define people on a board like this by what they're against. If I'm interpreting you right...

You can be against both Communism and Reaganism. Simple opposing ideologies break down when you're talking about international relations and stuff.

I don't get the impression that most people on this board support those American political figures who take credit for bringing down communism!

Dan

Dr Fauste · Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654

Dan23 · Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:25 am Post subject:

Dr Fauste · Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654

Mogs, Name some politicians that you like ?

Mogsfan · WayToRussified Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490

Che supported guerilla war, though? I haven't read enough on him but so far, it seemed that he shared values with Castro. Anyway, there aren't any politicians who I like and I don't feel forced to choose any. I guess, on the top of my head, I'd choose Gandhi. Generally speaking, politicians are not to be trusted and that goes for all stripes and ideologies or persuasions. I think one must always hold in mind, their ulterior motives. It's just the way it is.

I don't know what system is best for a society but I know that no country is using one. I suppose there are aspects of each that are good and possibly, a type of odd hybrid of libertarianism and socialism would be ideal but perhaps, that is impossible? It's hard to know because there seems to be questions or flaws within each system. What I mean, it's difficult to decide how to respond to an issue and know which action to take or support.

All I know is that people are foolish when they support or value certain politicians because there's someone who is worse. Where is there a law that states you must support politicians X, Y and Z because the other ones are supposedly worse? All the ones you and the rest support have proven track records and they're all negative so I don't understand why people like, support and/or admire them.

Bush, a good neighbour? Don't make me laugh. Don't you and your peers not understand that if a person is generally bad and proves beyond a reasonable doubt of bad tendencies and poor values, that probably, they're a bad person in general as well? If your ethics are consistently bad, you might as well chalk up that person as bad, period. Well, you keep Bush in your backyard, please. The problem is what he does, his puppets and the puppet masters who control his strings, CAN and will influence not just the U.S. but many other nations as well. So, I say to Americans, don't dare say I can't have an opinion or criticize. That's it.

Dr Fauste · Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654