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dfnsk
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: Is this text 'readable' for a native speaker (english) |
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Hi,
I make NovosibirskGuide.Com project and i need a good translator. One send me his variant of translation of one of the texts. Could anyone say if this translation 'readable' for a native speaker, i mean is this text good enough?
It will be great, if you also point to words, that are not correctly used or old-fashioned.
So, the translation:
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Money, Shops, and Restaurants
Money
All cash operations in Russia are maintained in rubles. One can always find the current exchange rate at the main page of our website. Practically every bank provides the service of exchanging foreign currency to rubles and vice versa. However, one should be prepared to show the passport and the customs declaration in case one wants to exchange one currency for another. The exchange rate can be usually found on the display near the entrance of the bank. Many shops as well as the overwhelming majority of restaurants accept Visa and Maestro cards, whereas American Express cards and those of a local bank card association Zolotaya Korona (The Golden Crown) are accepted less frequently. A sticker at the entrance door serves as a widespread means of informing the customers about the possible ways of payment. In case one wants to pay in cash one may go and find ATM’s in virtually any building in the downtown. In other city districts ATM’s are usually located in shopping centers, large grocery stores, banks, public offices, and at subway stations. Banks often indicate the location of the nearest ATM with the help of pointing signs depicting acceptance marks. The majority of ATM’s operating with international bank card associations falls to the share of Sberbank and Alfabank.
Shops and Chemistries
In contrast to many European cities, there is a relatively large twenty-four-hour grocery shop in every block of Novosibirsk. Apart from food, one may purchase personal-care products, household chemistry, crockery, the printed press, and some minor household goods such as bulbs and electric batteries. Moreover, large malls found in the distant city areas provide a wide choice of goods and products for cheaper prices. Wherever one lives, there is always a day-and-night chemistry store nearby.
Prices
One can estimate the average price level basing on the photo of my yesterday’s sales check which is attached below.
Alcoholic beverages are sold in all the shops. However, one should take into consideration that stiff drinks are not for sale from 10 pm till 9 am in the Novosibirsk region. Here is a short list of prices which can help one to become more familiar with the cost of spirits in Novosibirsk: a bottle of beer of such level as Carlsberg, Holstein or Efes costs, on the average, about thirty rubles; the price of a bottle of a good wine is approximately two hundred rubles and higher. Bars and cafes sell the same items two or even three times more expensive.
Tobacco is very cheap in Russia. For instance, a pack of Winston costs twenty rubles, Marlboro can be bought for thirty rubles, whereas the price of a pack of Parliament is forty-five rubles. A law restricting the maximum retail price of a pack of cigarettes has been passed recently, so that various shops sell tobacco for the same price. Antismoking reforms have not yet become the issue of wide discussion, so smoking is allowed in the majority of bars and restaurants.
Natural fruit and vegetables grown without the help of genetic engineering are for sale at cheap prices since many people sell the products from their own market gardens. The citizens of Novosibirsk prefer to buy vegetables and fruit from these very people because of favorable prices.
One liter of ordinary gasoline costs nineteen rubles, super-gasoline is sold at the price of twenty-one rubles.
According to official statistics, an average citizen of Novosibirsk earned 10 912.6 rubles per month in 2006.
Restaurants
Almost all restaurants offer the so-called business lunches on workdays at the time when Russians have lunch, which is approximately from 1 pm to 4 pm. Basically, it means that one can order a substantial meal for the price of one hundred and fifty up to two hundred rubles. Any other time, an ordinary dinner without alcoholic beverages costs from two or three hundred rubles per person, but the prices may vary significantly in different places. There is also an economical option of eating at canteens at the approximate price of one hundred rubles. The local citizens prefer to cook food at home.
Tips
It is customary to leave the sum of money equal to five to fifteen percent of the bill in bars, cafes and restaurants. Nevertheless, tips are not perceived as something that goes without saying. So, sparing a waiter a tip is not regarded as something extraordinary or offensive, especially when the quality of his or her work does not seem to be satisfactory. There is a custom, which is never voiced and according to which thanking a waiter when he or she takes the money is equal to refusing from the change. Though, this rule is not a universally acknowledged one. Taxi passengers are not expected to tip. |
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5_Zvehzda
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Is this text 'readable' for a native speaker (english) |
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dfnsk,
The text below is very readable and should be completely understood by any native english speaker. However, I highlighted in red font what I didn't find very clear. I also added a hyphen to 'anti-smoking'. What you have written so far is very good and should be helpful to your project. Good luck.
| dfnsk wrote: | Hi,
I make NovosibirskGuide.Com project and i need a good translator. One send me his variant of translation of one of the texts. Could anyone say if this translation 'readable' for a native speaker, i mean is this text good enough?
It will be great, if you also point to words, that are not correctly used or old-fashioned.
So, the translation:
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Money, Shops, and Restaurants
Money
All cash operations in Russia are maintained in rubles. One can always find the current exchange rate at the main page of our website. Practically every bank provides the service of exchanging foreign currency to rubles and vice versa. However, one should be prepared to show the passport and the customs declaration in case one wants to exchange one currency for another. The exchange rate can be usually found on the display near the entrance of the bank. Many shops as well as the overwhelming majority of restaurants accept Visa and Maestro cards, whereas American Express cards and those of a local bank card association Zolotaya Korona (The Golden Crown) are accepted less frequently. A sticker at the entrance door serves as a widespread means of informing the customers about the possible ways of payment. In case one wants to pay in cash one may go and find ATM’s in virtually any building in the downtown. In other city districts ATM’s are usually located in shopping centers, large grocery stores, banks, public offices, and at subway stations. Banks often indicate the location of the nearest ATM with the help of pointing signs depicting acceptance marks. The majority of ATM’s operating with international bank card associations falls to the share of Sberbank and Alfabank.
Shops and Chemistries
In contrast to many European cities, there is a relatively large twenty-four-hour grocery shop in every block of Novosibirsk. Apart from food, one may purchase personal-care products, household chemistry, crockery, the printed press, and some minor household goods such as bulbs and electric batteries. Moreover, large malls found in the distant city areas provide a wide choice of goods and products for cheaper prices. Wherever one lives, there is always a day-and-night chemistry store nearby.
Prices
One can estimate the average price level basing on the photo of my yesterday’s sales check which is attached below.
Alcoholic beverages are sold in all the shops. However, one should take into consideration that stiff drinks are not for sale from 10 pm till 9 am in the Novosibirsk region. Here is a short list of prices which can help one to become more familiar with the cost of spirits in Novosibirsk: a bottle of beer of such level as Carlsberg, Holstein or Efes costs, on the average, about thirty rubles; the price of a bottle of a good wine is approximately two hundred rubles and higher. Bars and cafes sell the same items two or even three times more expensive.
Tobacco is very cheap in Russia. For instance, a pack of Winston costs twenty rubles, Marlboro can be bought for thirty rubles, whereas the price of a pack of Parliament is forty-five rubles. A law restricting the maximum retail price of a pack of cigarettes has been passed recently, so that various shops sell tobacco for the same price. Anti-smoking reforms have not yet become the issue of wide discussion, so smoking is allowed in the majority of bars and restaurants.
Natural fruit and vegetables grown without the help of genetic engineering are for sale at cheap prices since many people sell the products from their own market gardens. The citizens of Novosibirsk prefer to buy vegetables and fruit from these very people because of favorable prices.
One liter of ordinary gasoline costs nineteen rubles, super-gasoline is sold at the price of twenty-one rubles.
According to official statistics, an average citizen of Novosibirsk earned 10 912.6 rubles per month in 2006.
Restaurants
Almost all restaurants offer the so-called business lunches on workdays at the time when Russians have lunch, which is approximately from 1 pm to 4 pm. Basically, it means that one can order a substantial meal for the price of one hundred and fifty up to two hundred rubles. Any other time, an ordinary dinner without alcoholic beverages costs from two or three hundred rubles per person, but the prices may vary significantly in different places. There is also an economical option of eating at canteens at the approximate price of one hundred rubles. The local citizens prefer to cook food at home.
Tips
It is customary to leave the sum of money equal to five to fifteen percent of the bill in bars, cafes and restaurants. Nevertheless, tips are not perceived as something that goes without saying. So, sparing a waiter a tip is not regarded as something extraordinary or offensive, especially when the quality of his or her work does not seem to be satisfactory. There is a custom, which is never voiced and according to which thanking a waiter when he or she takes the money is equal to refusing from the change. Though, this rule is not a universally acknowledged one. Taxi passengers are not expected to tip. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Its legible to me, but its a bit broken in some areas. I agree with what 5_Zvehzda, highlighted. |
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MrSpice
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | Its legible to me, but its a bit broken in some areas. I agree with what 5_Zvehzda, highlighted. |
Keep in mind, that Fire_G is not really a native speaker. Actually, she does not speak any languages well. She speaks some English. But it's kind of broken. She knows enough to deal with bail bonds |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Keep in mind, that Fire_G is not really a native speaker. Actually, she does not speak any languages well. She speaks some English. But it's kind of broken. She knows enough to deal with bail bonds |
Why dont we have someone examine your use of the Russian language, and zero in on all your grammatical errors. If you make more than 3 errors, we can all assume that Russian wasnt your first language.  |
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dfnsk
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| thank you all a lot! you really helped me. |
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UsualSuspect
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: 2 Bob's worth |
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dfnsk,
I have no trouble understanding the intent or content. My wife's translations end up like that one, but better  . It's just she translates as close as possible, not idiomatically.
"moreover"..my wife beats that one to death, and it isn't used much at all anymore.
The chemist's section could use some tidying up.
In the beers part, "of such level as", just change it to "such as".
I'd pick it apart more, but that's not what you want!
Enjoy
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Daria
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Is this text 'readable' for a native speaker (english) |
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| dfnsk wrote: |
Money
All cash operations in Russia are maintained in rubles. One can always find the current exchange rate at the main page of our website. Practically every bank provides the service of exchanging foreign currency to rubles and vice versa. However, one should be prepared to show the passport and the customs declaration in case one wants to exchange one currency for another. The exchange rate can be usually found on the display near the entrance of the bank. Many shops as well as the overwhelming majority of restaurants accept Visa and Maestro cards, whereas American Express cards and those of a local bank card association Zolotaya Korona (The Golden Crown) are accepted less frequently. |
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MrSpice
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: |
Why dont we have someone examine your use of the Russian language, and zero in on all your grammatical errors. If you make more than 3 errors, we can all assume that Russian wasnt your first language. |
I think you should focus on your 1st and only language. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:39 am Post subject: |
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I think you should focus on your 1st and only language. |
To your knowledge, which is not that much. You know what I want you to know, and nothing more. Now be a good bitch and log off. |
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MrSpice
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: |
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To your knowledge, which is not that much. You know what I want you to know, and nothing more. Now be a good bitch and log off. |
Thanks for admitting that you're neither inquisitive nor curious about anything. Continue your exciting career behind closed doors... |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for admitting that you're neither inquisitive nor curious about anything. Continue your exciting career behind closed doors... |
Awweeee did I hurt your feelings? Did you want to share something with me? Ok I'll ask you the questions you want me to ask so that you can sleep well tonight.
1.) Did you pop your blow up doll yet? (you know the one you named Leslie)
2.) Did you make a mess in your panties?
You are my career from now on, I promise, I will keep up to date on all your perversions! |
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surfguy
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| it's funny because when one travels the world...everyone wants to learn english and most want to come to the USA if they could |
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MrSpice
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| surfguy wrote: | | it's funny because when one travels the world...everyone wants to learn english and most want to come to the USA if they could |
That's not exactly true. Many people in Asia want to learn Chinese and Mandarin, for example. But English is the language of commerce all over the world. So, obviously, people want to learn English because that will help them find a job and make money. |
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surfguy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| ...well case in point Spice...just like the currency that Petroleum is traded in is the U.S. Dollar...answer me why English is the international language...I'm curious |
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