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How to look inconspicuous
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waytorussia
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Shoes Reply with quote

bryanboy wrote:

indeed.
russian guys also tend to like pointed-toe/triangular-toed shoes..


Okh yyeeesss it's mai favorit kaind... Meiks mee fil rilli kool,...
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brandalpayne11
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: LOL Reply with quote

LMAO =D>
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone checked out those wonderful cowboy boots at http://www.westernboots.ru? Now, that's what I call pointy! They have a shop somewhere I suppose, but they only give a number.

BTW I asked them if they had western boots for ladies, they said no... Razz But winter is closing in anyway, I won't be wearing my Tony Lamas...
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ow28
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If one wants to blend

1. Glance should be fixed like a wolf's. If you turn your glance somewhere try to see what is before you. Westerns have "wandiring" , purposeless glances.
Russians often interpret them as "happy" because they are not used to them.

2. Walking.
For men it should be kind of army style. Westerns walk too relaxed. Even if a russian was not a soldier he lives in a country where most of men were solders and usual style of walking is very close to the military one.
For women. Just look at models in fasion shows. Any other style of walking for russian women is hardly acceptable.

3. Not a rule but it's very often for russians on public to have that face of a tortured indian. No expression when you meet somebody's glance and look through him if you do not intend to communivcate. If you make eyes contact it means you want to ask about smth.

Using those first two rules I can recognize a Russian anywhere in the world.
and I believe russians in Russia just feel all the differences subconsciously.
The 3d usually changes after a year living abroad.
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VictoR-Tdot
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Using those first two rules I can recognize a Russian anywhere in the world.

I bet you anything you can't....or do you mean just FOBs (fresh off the boat)?..in which case maybe.
And those rules seem silly to me...but I haven't lived there since I was 8 so I can't argue them.
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Dr-Fauste
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vic, I have had 95% accuracy rate in picking out Russians in Canada without them talking or walking or whatever. I can't tell you why, but it is fact.
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VictoR-Tdot
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you just don't notice the ones you miss....I'm telling you from personal experience that most people here don't recognize me as a Russian....even with me talking or walking.
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Dr-Fauste
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vic, a personal question. I know so many Russian kids who sort have abandon their heritage in Canada. My ex girlfriend's kid would only reply in English.I know many kids that are this way. Did you abandon your roots for a while? How much Russian do you speak and with whom? Have you gone back and do you feel strange like a foreigner? Will you demand that your children pick up your heitage language?
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VictoR-Tdot
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can still speak and read Russian although I am forgetting some words...and I read Russian much slower than English. I speak it mainly to my family...I don't have enough Russian friends.

I haven't gone back and wasn't really interested in going back till now...well mainly cause my parents didn't want me to go back....and now they think that I will get taken into the army...because I would have to travel there on my Russian citizenship...so it might be possible.

--Will you demand that your children pick up your heitage language?
If my wife will be slavic, then yeah hopefully, although I wouldn't be a very good teacher of it....it would be hard if she's not...but maybe I would make them take some classes...anyway that's looking too far into the future..I don't plan to have kids for another 6 years at least.

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My ex girlfriend's kid would only reply in English.

yeah my neighbour's daughter is like that too..understands but can't speak....I don't know if they tried teaching her Russian at all.

lol nice little interview.
Where in Canada are you from?


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Dr-Fauste
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me, Nova Scotia. My ancestry is scottish Irish and english. They have been in this nation since 1762 from ship hector. My father plays the bagpipes and has a kilt. I love to wear a kilt in Russia to see the faces.
Raised as Scottish could speak a little Gaelic. Moved to Alberta in 1983.
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ow28
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VictoR@Tdot wrote:
Maybe you just don't notice the ones you miss....I'm telling you from personal experience that most people here don't recognize me as a Russian....even with me talking or walking.


As I can see you have lived in Canada since you were a kid. I used to meet such guys. Your body language, look and melody of speach are not Russian 100%. And you think not like Russians yet. Sure you do not fit to the rules. I meant those who grew up in Russia.
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waytorussia
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VictoR@Tdot wrote:
....and now they(well only my mom) think that I will get taken into the army...because I would have to travel there on my Russian citizenship...so it might be possible.


Victor, they won't take you to the army if you have PMZh (ÏÌÆ - Postoyannoye Mesto Zhitelstva) stamp in your passport. They simply won't be able according to the law (I can give you reference if you want - PM me).

If you don't have PMZh AND you're less than 27 yo, they might take you to the army, but only between 1 Oct -> 31 Dec and 1 Apr - 30 Jun of every year (they have the draft on during these periods). So if you travel outside of these periods, they can't take you to the army, cause the draft is not on (again, the law).

If you have a Canadian passport you could also travel on it without showing the Russian one (don't even take it then), in this case they can't take you to the army, because they won't be able to prove you're a Russian citizen.

But then, even in the worst case I don't even imagine that a policeman would stop you to check your documents and see whether you're liable for the army service. Especially if you travel outside of the time spans I specified above.
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VictoR-Tdot
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot Dmitri. That should calm my parents a bit when I go Smile

ow28, Can you tell the difference between Ukranian and Russian people...or people from any other slavic countries?...cause I can't.

Dr.Fauste wrote:
Vic, I have had 95% accuracy rate in picking out Russians in Canada without them talking or walking or whatever. I can't tell you why, but it is fact.

I would still look like this if I lived in Russia all my life.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very interesting topic. I heard from people that were born in Russia and have lived in America for a while (just like me) that when they go to Russia people recognize them as being foreign. One guy I know left russia when he was 23 or 24. He has a family in St.Petersburg and goes there every 6 months. So, he speaks Russian, obviosuly, just as well as anybody. He tries to dress just like other peple in St.Petersburg. However, he says every time he meets new people in St.Petersburg, they "see" that he is from abroad. There is something in the face expression, clothing style, the way people behave that is a bit different there. For example, he said to me that many russians (especially men) don't take good care of their teeth. SO, when he opens his mouth full of shiny white teeth, people notice it. I live in New York City. There are about half a million Russians living in this town (probably more if you count Russian tourists and people living here illegally). I can still spot most russians, especially those older than 30 and especially those living in NY for less than 10-15 years. I think it's a facinating topic to research and explore.
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Filimon
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WayToRussia wrote:
VictoR@Tdot wrote:
....and now they(well only my mom) think that I will get taken into the army...because I would have to travel there on my Russian citizenship...so it might be possible.


Victor, they won't take you to the army if you have PMZh (ÏÌÆ - Postoyannoye Mesto Zhitelstva) stamp in your passport. They simply won't be able according to the law (I can give you reference if you want - PM me).

If you don't have PMZh AND you're less than 27 yo, they might take you to the army, but only between 1 Oct -> 31 Dec and 1 Apr - 30 Jun of every year (they have the draft on during these periods). So if you travel outside of these periods, they can't take you to the army, cause the draft is not on (again, the law).

If you have a Canadian passport you could also travel on it without showing the Russian one (don't even take it then), in this case they can't take you to the army, because they won't be able to prove you're a Russian citizen.

But then, even in the worst case I don't even imagine that a policeman would stop you to check your documents and see whether you're liable for the army service. Especially if you travel outside of the time spans I specified above.


That's not true (see above). If he travels on his Canadian passport - he will need a visa. When getting a visa they will most certainly ask him if he has a Russian passport, due to his place of birth and (possibly) name. As soon as he says yes - they will refuse it on the basis that Russians do not need visa to travel to Russian. It's in the law.
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