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life's better in Russia now?
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Camrade
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2andre
let it be untranslated cause it's a real nonsense Smile
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RussianBoy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 Camrade
Quote:
"Россия круче всех"


ты думаешь я прям хожу и ору тут всем на ухо, "Россия млять лучше!!! Россия лучше, и вообще мне сегодня хорошо, а вы все дураки!!" Ты либо не хочешь понять меня, либо не хочешь видеть правды. Я же говорю только то, что есть

Я никому ничего не доказываю. Просто высказываю свою точку зрения, в отличие, например, от того "доктора как-то его там"
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castilho
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:45 pm    Post subject: cyrilic alphabet Reply with quote

Wow, Russianboy. I would like someday to write in russian as you writes. But I think I don't enouph time to learn it. I tried once but it's so hard, I gave up.
But, really, it's a beautifull language.
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RussianBoy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks castilho

Special for Andre =) I know, translate is bad =( My English is bad...

THE TRANSLATION =)))

2 all

First, that occurs, this Dr Fauste has come on a forum, and started to

humiliate Russia. Yes Let it pass, it's his personal opinion. The most

terrible, that you assent to him. I understand, that in Russia a saying "it is

Good there where we are not present" works on 100 % but as foreigners when

humiliate our country are laughed, and we assent, type, yes, we a

chicken-feed, you better...

Dr Fauste, and what bad when I say, what Russia better other countries, I say

the truth, what it enrages you, it is not pleasant to you, what we better?!

Yes, we not the best, we not ideal, at us are many problems, but in some

things we the best, and it is necessary to be proud of it. We the best in the

world on the weapon, we the strongest country in the world, at us the best

education, yes we in general the biggest country. At us the best history: it

is not pleasant to you, that at us it is good, and in fact as it has turned

out, we anybody did not attack! We were always protected oneself, therefore we

and have remained the big country. Further, I am confident, what you are much

more senior than me, however, you did not learn to respect the another's point

of view?! Yes, dispute this one business, rather good but when there is a

humiliation of the participant about what culture there can be a speech?! The

another's point of view should be respected, what it would not be, please,

argue, but to humiliate it already uncultural. I do not speak, that we in

general the best, etc. but something at us are the best in the world and it

should be taken as a matter of course, and let to you will not be insulting,

and we shall be proud of it. I do not argue, there are also the worse sides,

they are, but there are also the best. Therefore, when I say Russia forever, I

believe in the future of the country, and what people, russians do not want,

that Russia was forever? You want, what it would grasp in the nearest war?

Therefore I also say forever, that we shall stay united for ever and at us all

will be good. Yes russians recollect, what was 15 years ago, compare that life

and this, and what, again all bad? You do not notice improvements, and all

time see the worse sides. In fact, knowingly many foreigners respond about us

very well. I very hate the American government because it butting into

everything and all is necessary to it. Here even business not in the

president, there put in any other people. America went to Europe, and now and

in the CIS. The purpose? The maximal approach Russia! The purpose of the NATO?

The maximal approach Russia. Their main task: to seize power above Russia. Why

us do not love in Europe because we it are inconvenient. We the strong

country, and to them it extremely is not favourable. There is a world

undeclared war against Russia. The NATO, all affairs in Georgia, in Ukraine,

etc. go first of all turn against Russia. Open eyes and see a reality. Think,

is Yanukovich, at once I want to note, that Russia together with ukrainians

for Yanukovich, but it NOT the candidate from Russia, we did not put forward

him! And America has simply nominated from itself - Yushenko. Well money tell

from where at him so much, in fact all this is arranged by Americans and

Europe. To eat with all time meal, any laser shows and representations, and it

is good ukrainians, type, I shall shout, but I free-of-charge eating here,

know, America knows weak places, a freebie - great force. Whence money? Only

do not tell a fairy tale. And at Yanukovich that also is not present money,

and free offers a meal he cannot. To you specially show all time meetings in

Kiev because it is favourable Europe that their people thought: look,

Ukrainian people struggles for independence, and meetings in east Ukraine do

not show, because it is not necessary to them. For them it against Russia.

Also they do not speak, that the majority has voted for Yanukovich, they

think, if Kiev for Yushenko, also all Ukraine too. And America rubing hands,

and quietly smiles. It is simply a pity to me ukrainians, they do not

understand, that dig a hole to itself. Georgia starts to understand it, but

already late, it was necessary to think earlier! But take into account, with

Russia such will not pass, will not wait. The good fellow Belarus, has sent

Americans far and for a long time, they even "a" to tell had not time! And

about war can not think, if we shall perish, together with all. 3rd world

completely will justify the name, all world, and for ever will suffer, and

will finish the existence a planet the Earth in case of 3 world. Therefore, it

is necessary to accept all as is and to not climb anywhere, really it is

difficult to have normal relations with all countries. The period of gains is

finished, but in fact America an exception to the rules. Russia is not

convenient for Europe and America, therefore it should be disorganized, than

and you are engaged, the main thing, people, Russian people, do not give in to

propagation which will be in 2 years, manage to distinguish the truth from a

lie, and do not get in a network in which Ukraine and Georgia has already got.

The future depends on you.
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castilho
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: literature Reply with quote

C'mon, RussianBoy. You forgot to mention the russian literature. Who can be better than Dostoievsky, Turgueniev, Tchecov, Lemontov, Pushkin, Tolstoi? Very easy question: nobody.
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Dr Fauste
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why bother to translate.
He is a nationalist, an Russian redneck. First he says how awful the rest of the world is, then he says that Georgia will never join the EU which now you say they turned against you, then you tell us that Russia is great, because you blow up the rest of the world,now you say that you like the rest of world. You are a fool. I like Russia, but I do not like your version of it.
Georgia will join the EU(prediction is 6 years) and Ukraine will do what is best for Ukraine and not Russia. I did not come on this forum to humilate Russia, just people like you. YOu are Nancyboy aka Nazi boy. If you talk to people from Georgia and Russia, they detest Russians like you. Quote "Ukainians know Russians, but Russians do not know Ukrainians." We in Canada say the same thing about Americans, because we have understand the politics of the USA, but they do not have to know anything about us, although many assume to know. Russianboy, you came on this board for reason, instead you have made to dislike you for what you said. Even in Russian, you contradicted yourself and you sound that you are not sure what you want. One moment you hate the USA, but you want to visit. But now just the government.

I have no time to argue with you. You are nationalist and you are no different than those who shave their head and beat up minorities for pleasure. Your country has great advances in science, art and education, but you state the your proud that you can go destroy other countries with nuclear weopons and a vast army. Good Night Sir.
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RussianBoy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: literature Reply with quote

castilho wrote:
C'mon, RussianBoy. You forgot to mention the russian literature. Who can be better than Dostoievsky, Turgueniev, Tchecov, Lemontov, Pushkin, Tolstoi? Very easy question: nobody.

=))
And your country, I know, the best in football. Respect!
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RussianBoy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 Dr Fauste
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One moment you hate the USA, but you want to visit. But now just the government.
I hate the US government, but I want to come to US. It's true.
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He is a nationalist, an Russian redneck
Maybe you're drunk... If you'll say it to my friends - they say you that you're crazy. I HATE NAZIS!!!!
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Georgia will never join the EU
It's true
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contradicted yourself and you sound that you are not sure what you want
I told you all what I want

So u're crazy man, don't be silly
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Dr Fauste
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you examine what is written, No one is agreeing with you. YOu have not made one friend. Anyone who thinks their nation is better than another, because they have might and will to destroy another nation is a Nazi. You may carry a different symbol on your jacket, but you are no different.
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RussianBoy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you examine what is written, No one is agreeing with you. YOu have not made one friend

I'm special invited my friends to see my and your messages and thay said that you're fool/crazy/<..censorship..>
Quote:
Anyone who thinks their nation is better than another, because they have might and will to destroy another nation is a Nazi
Yes, u're right 100%!!! But I don't think that my NATION is better than another.
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You may carry a different symbol on your jacket, but you are no different.
U're right
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Dr Fauste
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not care about your friends and what they think. Almost everyone on this board thinks that you are too much of nationalist. You have not one positive comment and that even with people from your own country.
I can make comments about your country, because I have been there and have many friends from your nation and many more from nations, but you have not had this opportunity which is a shame. It is a shame that too many restrictions on people from your country to travel and you will see that much is posted on the internet is garbage. I read books about my country that was made for Russians and they are full of mistakes and errors. They are made to sell, not to be accurate. The only way you will truly understand my view, is to visit and see for yourself. My country is not better than yours, but I am more comfortable here, because I am familar with it.

I think you should avoid the topics of politics and religion until you articulate yourself better in English. You are probably a nice guy, but you come across not well.
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RussianBoy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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everyone on this board thinks that you are too much of nationalist

2 all
so EVERYONE on this board thinks that I'm too much of nationalist?
if yes, tell why u think so, because I never been a nationalist. It's interesting for me first of all.

2 Dr Fauste
Hi man. How do u do =) Long time no see, you know =)
So, why do you think that I'm nationalist? Because it's funny for me and because I hate nationalists as you (I mean that you hate nationalists too)Question
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you should avoid the topics of politics and religion until you articulate yourself better in English
It's my business
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davidbrock1
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: State of Russia Reply with quote

I find the most of the posts an absolute joke above. I visited Russia for
the first day during the last month. I went with an open mind and tales from
a work colleague what it is was like during communist times. Believe me
on my visit it probably hasn't changed much at all for the majority of the
Russian population. My Russian friend was extremely hospitable and I
didn't criticise the country at all when visiting. She told me about all the stories
about the mafia, corruption in business and amongst public insititutes being
very widespread, beatings in the street for women and awful hospitals. The
last one hit home as in England we probably have the best free health service
in the world. Her description of her treatment in hospital sounded like some
sort of torture procedure involving bribes to alleviate the pain. with better drugs.
She has a better education than me slightly but she is still on poverty wages.
She has no stability in life and at the moment zero prospects. I give the chance
to move to England. If she did take advantage of me I wouldn't feel any malice
considering what a dark damp hole Tver is in Russia (bleak and grim but with
beautiful women.)

David (A reality message - Russia is dire but the people are hospitable)
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Dr Fauste
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not been to Tver, but things are not bad for everyone. For many people, Russia is better country than yours. It depends on the side of the coin your on. I know Russian people who have come to Canada already own 7 houses. They did not leave penniless. My Ex girlfriend and spouse at the time left Russia at the age of 24 with 70,000 Dollars which is much than the average student coming out school in England. I rather live in Moscow, than live in Washington DC and felt way more safe. In Canada, if you went to a reservation, you would be shocked.
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