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StephenB.
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Jorge,
The migrants aren't getting a cut in pay...they are opening their own little shops or kosks such as, selling produce, meats etc...I'm sure some will take jobs that are cut in pay just to put food on their tables, however, it's better than where they are originally from what Surf was saying in his post in response to you. |
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jo jo 7
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| mister_wizzz wrote: | | jo jo 7 wrote: |
This is pretty bad. I would not want to make a comparison. We have plenty of skinheads where I am from and recently had a gruesome hate crime towards a 4 year old latino boy. I just think those skinheads have dug into their pea brains while shaving their heads. They are ignorant.
I have no sympathy towards skinheads. They are not of human form. They are the devils advocates. |
The comparison shouldn't be done between skinheads, a skinhead is a skinhead no matter the country they are coming from.
The difference is there :
sentence you get from Justice for the murder of a child (from any origin) :
in USA : death
in Europe : 30 years in a jail
in Russia : 5 years in a jail, may be less (if the child is non Russian of course) |
Russia needs to get on the ball and convict skinheads for longer sentences (especially when children are killed) and clean up the streets. That's a bunch of BS.
The prisons where I am from rape skinheads right in their a--. Skinheads don't make it in prison here especially when bubba gets a hold of their little skinny butts. |
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surfguy
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watch this film...too understand that which divides
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U_-KH03ozR0
it all stems from lack of understanding...black, white, asian, latino, American, russian, Itallian...whatever...ignorance and lack of respect...lack of self respect...creates hate. If we hate ourselves then we hate each other...love thy self...love thy nieghbor |
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StephenB.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: hate crime/racism |
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This is an interesting video...At least Americans are trying to do something for the victim.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5Kbd66YtTmg |
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surfguy
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| well not sure if it was a total hate crime...and a lot of people are anti gay in the US...not just some russians...very unfortunate though |
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surfguy
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Jorge
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:00 am Post subject: Re: migrants |
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| StephenB. wrote: | Jorge,
The migrants aren't getting a cut in pay...they are opening their own little shops or kosks such as, selling produce, meats etc...I'm sure some will take jobs that are cut in pay just to put food on their tables, however, it's better than where they are originally from what Surf was saying in his post in response to you. |
The skinheads are under the impression that these migrants purposely inflate the prices on certain goods when they are selling to Russian locals, and I read an interview where one Russian claimed that migrants were trying to put him out of business by blocking his kiosk with their own and selling the same stuff. This sounds aggressive to me, and I would not take kindly to that sort of thing. However I am in no way defending the indefensible actions of skinheads. |
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surfguy
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well skin heads are trouble makers everywhere...but that said...I've known quite a few and not all were white...there are mexican skin heads too. And actually they all party together...white-brown etc. Hey isn't Shaq a skin head? Oh wait he's just bald...my bad  |
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Jorge
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| surfguy wrote: | | well skin heads are trouble makers everywhere...but that said...I've known quite a few and not all were white...there are mexican skin heads too. And actually they all party together...white-brown etc. Hey isn't Shaq a skin head? Oh wait he's just bald...my bad |
You are thinking of Nazi Low Riders, and that is mostly a jail/prison gang. |
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surfguy
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sup esse  |
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StephenB.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: racism |
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surf punching someone in the face regardless of someone is gay or not is hate. If that person from the result of a punch dies it becomes a crime, regardless if people don't like gays it doesn't make it less than a hate crime. Sending their families home(Russians) from the picnic and hanging out to have a fight with one guy would be consider a hate crime. Plus there were witnesses saying that the Russians were calling the victim stereotype names for a homosexual etc...It's a shame that some people can't see it for what it is because a person is homosexual. Why would the Russian guy run back to Russia if he was innocent? What the whole point of the story is that at least the FBI is after the guy and our government is doing something about it.
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StephenB.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: sick video |
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Surf why would you put that link on there and say do not watch? I don't get it. You know people are curious.
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StephenB.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: sick video |
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| Surf....I'm guilty I watched it...I'm the curious one...listen I wouldn't really watch that link people...it's very very very sick and horrible..skip over the link and I'll just tell you what was in it. It's a person getting his head cut off and in another scene a bunch guys getting shot in the head. |
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jo jo 7
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| They just had news on this video on CNN and why it was put on the internet. I did not watch it because it will only piss me off. Russia is so riddled by extremist and skinheads. I don't know if I want to visit Russia right now knowing that those idiots can stab little girls, chop of heads and get away with it. Why doesn't Putin get a paddy wagon and order the militia to round up these damn skinheads and throw their asses in the slink? Huh? Tell me what is the problem with cleaning up those streets over there? |
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ShinsengumiX
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They just had news on this video on CNN and why it was put on the internet. I did not watch it because it will only piss me off. Russia is so riddled by extremist and skinheads. I don't know if I want to visit Russia right now knowing that those idiots can stab little girls, chop of heads and get away with it. Why doesn't Putin get a paddy wagon and order the militia to round up these damn skinheads and throw their asses in the slink? Huh? Tell me what is the problem with cleaning up those streets over there?
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Too bad putin doesn't think like you jo jo, that's a really good suggestion, and I would also like to hear some views as to why russia doesn't do sensible things such as these...
(Hints: too many assholes in power...using fucking skinheads as 'political tool' - shows how damn helpess the government is...) |
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