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ow28 Frequent Guest
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:28 am Post subject: Re: |
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| jeremey wrote: | | Look up the 2001 Census records, and is why dark-skinned Indians and Africans virtually non-existent there. |
Very funny posting. I'll try to explain. May be, I am not sure but just maybe because it's Russia , not India nor Africa, just Russia. May be they do not like the cold Russian climate, very hazardous for southern nations . And I do not see in Indian or African Census any Russians too. And I take it as It's just because Russians hate hot weather.
Or maybe you are a racist yourself and you are sure each Indian or African wants to escape in any European/American/Ausralian country because they can not build their own decent society in Africa or India?
If I am wrong and you are a simple admirer of those nations and feel pity you cannot meet a lot of them in Russia, you can immigrate in Africa or India and be happy there seeing them every day. |
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chi6me8ra Frequent Guest
Joined: 26 Sep 2004 Posts: 32 Location: Manhattan
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:45 am Post subject: my two cents... |
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| being black (ethnically kenyan)and having grown up in a stereotypically white area (sw portland) i've definitely seen little traces of racism in people BUT not just in whites. every group has a little us-against-them mentality but a majority of ppl don't allow that mentality to consume them. i think being a minority anywhere ALWAYS feels somewhat uncomfortable but that doesn't necessarily mean the majority is out to get you. i don't expect to run into dozens of black women like me everyday on the streets of russia but i don't really see that as evidence why i shouldn't go to russia. ppl always notice the "odd" one in the bunch but that's the way life works. i'm sure i'll get a couple of stares (for a number of reasons aside from being black) and will probably even hear something i think is racist but i don't think that fear should keep me at home. basically there is racism everywhere and we all just have to learn how to deal with it constructively. |
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Camrade VIP
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:01 am Post subject: |
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2jeremey
Do you think that bbc.co.uk know the situation better?
As for me, I think that they only express their stereotypes...
You also "try" to show us some statistic facts and to prove that there is a discrimination of turk peoples
Look: the second ethnic group after russians is tatars - they are muslims and turks... I've been to Tatarstan - there's absolutely no discrimination. And never refer to statistic facts - it's always sounds unconvincengly...
2chi6me8ra
you're right absolutely... |
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jeremeyagain Just Starting
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:28 am Post subject: allow me... |
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Dear Dr Fauste
you didn't care to mention that in the Netherlands Churches were also unfortunately burnt and razed to the ground? see bbc.co.uk for pictures, oh but you dont trust any media, do you? regardless, Turk Muslims compromise 6% of the population of Holland and are the largest ethnic group(Microsoft Encarta 2003). Not quite so one-sided as you make it sound.
BREAKING NEWS TODAY!!! Turkey has leapt forward earlier than expected with proposed admission in the European Union. French President Jaques Chiraq has for the first time said that Turkey's admission to the EU is a crucial step in the right direction. President Bush has also rather surprisingly offered full support. Within Europe the movement against this admission has OFFICIALLY loosened in Germany, France, Great Britain amongst others.(look up any European News Station/Website-figure recently published)
Blacks in Ivory Coast have gone on the rampage against the French residents(who are surprisingly many) with 'machetes', forcing them to leave in droves. This has subsequently caused a massive uprise in anti-Black sentiment in France.
English black football players in Spain were monkey-chanted by the entire Madrid Stadium crowd(even by women and children) and had bananas thrown at them due to a rise in anti-black sentiment over there as there has been the case in Greece and the Balkan States.
Being a Doctor you should know; it all depends on which way you look at it..
OW28: yes of course, thats the real reason, isnt it?? Black Sudanese must be getting slaughtered because they actually prefer the desert climate?! Blacks are still the vast majority of ethnic groups who are harrassed by police in England because the weather's most different for them?! The Eastern Bloc's belief that all blacks are theives is based on the fact that they have no interest in going to live there therefore they had to come to that conclusion?!
RUSSIA HAS AN INTERCONTINENTAL CLIMATE!!!! Which means in certain areas in the summer they experience some of the world's highest heat levels. 'They hate the hot weather' indeed!!
Lol!!
CAMRADE: YOU ARE BLACK. I am half-RUSSIAN, half-ENGLISH so its probably expected that I would know a little more than both you and the bbc. I quoted bbc.co.uk, because IT IS RECOGNIZED THE WORLD OVER AS THE MOST UNBIASED NEWS STATION(the opinion of many people throughout the world).
Funny my grandfather is from Tatarstan and would tell me of stories of blacks being murdered simply for being at the wrong place.(Maybe they were lost on someones' land and taken for a thief) Nothing personal, just that they were rare and different and Tatars are very territorial people by nature.(and possibly also a result of the inbreeding-sorry Grandad!)
you say dont look at stastistics, but I'd rather trust them than the estimations of people on the internet, whom you cant see and whom's identity is regulary altered..
If you really want to do something constructive then save your black comrades from slaughter in Sudan who are currently dying at a rate of 10,000 a week rather then trying to prove whether blacks can travel to certain areas of the world or not. Who cares anyway??
WAKE UP???!!
The links between Muslims and Europe are getting re-connected. Look at Turkey and last month Bosnia-Herzinigova and Serbia(who would have thought it?). Western Europe is now starting to reverse a lot of biased legistlature due to a renewed recognization of Muslim's history and contribution to Europe. If Iraq has shown anything, it has shown that military
action/persecution of any kind against them is most unsuccessful and definately not the right answer. War in Iraq has cost over 250 BILLION DOLLARS so far, and experts say thats not going to scratch the surface of the real costs of the already behind-schedule rebuilding.
At those prices we wont be seeing many more wars in our time at least.
Russia and China have aligned with Iran(look it up-ANY NEWS SITE including Russian and Oriental - Nov.2004) after signing two of the largest oil and gas deal in modern history, and have agreed to give exclusive backbone to Iran over international affairs.
Does this sound like a world biased against Muslims for the rest of 'eternity'? Not quite.
The fact is that I've rumbled this little circle, and you know it.
How many true Russians read this site?? Not many. But there is an overflux of black replies in here(indeed in ANY internet forum/chatroom)..usually they post stolen pictures of white people, add a white name and type their fantasies all over the internet. lets arrange a link up on Web-Cam and we can continue this discussion amicably face to face so we can know we are both white, and not just a 'race-stirrer' as some of you evidently are. If you are unable to do this, I will assume you're yet another Afro-Caribbean dreamer.. If you can however, I look forward to hopefully hearing from you!
For those genuinely interested; any Italians or Greeks or Turks travelling to Russia will be most welcome. Russians traditionally have an interest in Greeks, and, as we all know you get Greek-looking guys in INDIGEONOUS families in England and France and elsewhere in
Europe. even the Muslim-population over there likes you guys too!! |
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Dr-Fauste Site Admin
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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You made completely no sense what so ever. You basically attacked everyone. You remind me of the saying" I am not racist, I hate everyone equally" .
You are very angry person. You have no point to yor statement except to spew out angst and hate. You have lots of hate for people. I am sorry that you are the way you are. Hate inspires more hate. |
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Mogsfan WayToRussified
Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| I agree with Mr. Fauste. This thread has turned into rants of propaganda and other senseless drivel. |
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Dr-Fauste Site Admin
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:49 am Post subject: |
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My point is:
1.BLACKS IN NO WAY EXPERIENCE A 'BETTER' TIME THAN TURKS IN RUSSIA.
So, your point
2. FORMER USSR IS PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM
So your point
3.THE MUSLIM TURKS ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE ETHNIC GROUPS AND THERE ARE MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS SURROUNDING THEM IN XINJIANG CHINESE PROVENCE AND MIDDLE EAST etc.
So your point
4. THIS FORUM IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AFRO-CARIBBEANS IN THEIR OWN DREAM WORLD
Buddy, you must lay off ganja, come smoken with dus Jamicans mun.
5.THE MAJORITY OF RUSSIANS DO NOT LIKE BLACKS
Amazing, but you are not racist
6. YOU ARE BLACK
LOL, Nyet ya ne Cherny, Ya shetlandski beliya
7. IF WE ARE TALKING ON A GLOBAL SCALE THEN AFRICANS ARE KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE MORE THAN ALL THE INTER-ETHNIC CONFLICT IN THE WORLD COMBINED
Russians massacre millions on its own people and through Feudalism enslaved its people. How many Russian were killed by their own hands from 1800-1950. How many wars were created by Europeans? So what
8. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU THINK I AM RACIST
I do not think, I know you are racist. [/quote] |
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jeremeythinkagain Just Starting
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: |
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My point is:
1.BLACKS IN NO WAY EXPERIENCE A 'BETTER' TIME THAN TURKS IN RUSSIA.
So, your point
THIS IS THE TRUTH
2. FORMER USSR IS PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM
So your point
THIS IS THE TRUTH
3.THE MUSLIM TURKS ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE ETHNIC GROUPS AND THERE ARE MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS SURROUNDING THEM IN XINJIANG CHINESE PROVENCE AND MIDDLE EAST etc.
So your point
THIS IS THE TRUTH
4. THIS FORUM IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AFRO-CARIBBEANS IN THEIR OWN DREAM WORLD
Buddy, you must lay off ganja, come smoken with dus Jamicans mun.
YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOURSELF THERE
5.THE MAJORITY OF RUSSIANS DO NOT LIKE BLACKS
Amazing, but you are not racist
JUST THE WAY IT IS. I NEVER SAID IT MATTERED.
6. YOU ARE BLACK
LOL, Nyet ya ne Cherny, Ya shetlandski beliya
WOW! A SENTANCE IN RUSSIAN!(incidentally not in Cyrillic) THAT MUST PROVE EVERYTHING THEN!! CAM WEBCHAT?!
7. IF WE ARE TALKING ON A GLOBAL SCALE THEN AFRICANS ARE KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE MORE THAN ALL THE INTER-ETHNIC CONFLICT IN THE WORLD COMBINED
Russians massacre millions on its own people and through Feudalism enslaved its people. How many Russian were killed by their own hands from 1800-1950. How many wars were created by Europeans? So what
IF THERE IS ANY ONE RACE IN HE WORLD GETTING WIPED OUT AND PERSECUTED, ITS THE AFRICANS BY A LARGE MAJORITY
8. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU THINK I AM RACIST
I do not think, I know you are racist. [/quote]
I KNOW YOU ARE VERY BLACK |
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Dr-Fauste Site Admin
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Jeremy, you got me. I am actually the actor from Loveboat who played Issac the Bartender, Ted Lange. I have to admit that you are very smart and if I was you tell all you friends about how smart you were to figure this out.
It is been hard type cast as a bartender and doing those bud light comercials. You know want me bro?
Well I got interested in Russia when the loveboat visit SPB. |
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jeremeythinkagain Just Starting
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| I did say you were very black.. |
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Camrade VIP
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:58 am Post subject: |
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2ow28
btw i am not black
moderators, maybe you should ban those idiots? |
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AliceFromMoscow WayToRussified
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| jeremey, ok ok we all are black here, calm down, you lilttle white boy lol |
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Camrade VIP
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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2Alexeis Zemanova
ok, ok
We are all got damn racists but would you piss off from this forum cause you don't want to hear us and give some "adequate" arguments? that's why I suppose that you need some help.... |
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brandalpayne11 Talk Show Host
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 245 Location: NC, US
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| AliceFromMoscow wrote: | | jeremey, ok ok we all are black here, calm down, you lilttle white boy lol |
Thank u Alice I always thought I was black, I guess I was in Denial. I Now see the light, "I have a dream".
How in the HELL did this post get so damn racist. Racism is nothing other than ignorance.So everyone get your head out of your a$$ & tels talk about this thing objectively. |
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Alexeis-Zemanova Frequent Guest
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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ps Alice YOU HAVE BEEN RACIST
"calm down you little white boy"
?????????????????
Alice we bothe know your Dr Fauste amongst others.
GET ON THE WEBCAM OR ELSE SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!! |
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