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Are Russians Racists?
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brandalpayne11
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Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 245
Location: NC, US

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexeis Zemanova wrote:
ps Alice YOU HAVE BEEN RACIST

"calm down you little white boy"

?????????????????

Alice we bothe know your Dr Fauste amongst others.

GET ON THE WEBCAM OR ELSE SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!

1) We have all got better things to do than enter into a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed.

2) STOP PICKING ON WOMEN, U SIR ARE A COWARD.

3) Maybe u r right, alice just might be the good doc.........mmmmm.......food for thought.......only 1 problem, they live on 2 separate continents

4) R U Winston?
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Dr-Fauste
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Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 654

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brendal Mun, lets go smoke some gunja and pick um some white women, mun.
Bob Marley Rulz

Alexeis has you ever been bit by an18in black anaconda, you may walk a little funny for the first week, but you beed okay after dat.
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brandalpayne11
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Location: NC, US

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No can do bro, i'm too busy ridin' thru da hood. wit my mind on my money & my money on my mind. Cool
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Dr-Fauste
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Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexis, you could join my franchise.
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ow28
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Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Are Russians Racists? Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Are Russian people racist? What do you think of black people? Non-Russians? Americans? Question


Here is an answer for your question

http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/12/10/do1004.xml#3
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markhagelin
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Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 208
Location: Maine, USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: appreciate your concern.. Reply with quote

jeremeythinkagain wrote:


2. FORMER USSR IS PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM

3.THE MUSLIM TURKS ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE ETHNIC GROUPS AND THERE ARE MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS SURROUNDING THEM IN XINJIANG CHINESE PROVENCE AND MIDDLE EAST etc.



The majority of Russians and FSU are either Orthodox or Catholic.

The Russian Orthodox Church has been around since 988 AD and celebrated its 1,000 year anniversary in 1988.



Mark
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brandalpayne11
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want some of the same acid that u got a hold of Cool Laughing Wink Rolling Eyes Shocked Twisted Evil Very Happy Smile Sad Surprised Shocked
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Alexeis-Zemanova
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I AM DEFINATELT NOT STIRRING

IF YOU ASK ME BLACKS SHOULD GET FAR MORE RIGHTS IN THE USA. I'LL TELL YOU WHY:

1. they pretty much built the USA ESPECIALLY within the initial stages

2. they are(along with Hispanics) the largest other ethnic group.

3. Americans rarely care to acknowledge this.

4. They provide the bulk of their entertainment/sports industries

5. Their shared history is a long as the country itself

maybe if America would stop being so hypocritical and gave African-Americans their rightful place and stopped funding 'white-only' neighbourhoods, projects etc, etc. you would find a better attitude in the world towards them. Once again it is American policy which causes discontent around the world

Russia, Ukraine etc. is obviously a long way off for this change.. but once again, who cares? if most Russians are dying to leave, why would you want to go there anyway?

So you see it is America which generates black racism, not only that but they also let them down terribly after lots of false promises.
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AliceFromMoscow
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Joined: 10 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.waytorussia.net/TalkLounge/viewtopic.php?t=1913
if you'd bother to open your eyes you'd see that topic was split because all that nwo stuff has nothing to do with racism topic.
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DennisF
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Joined: 05 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Please leave the forum! Reply with quote

Dearest Alexis, What a potty mouth you have. Did not your mother try to raise you to be a civilized and productive member of whatever society you grew up in( or did you ever grow up)? The major part of NOT being a racist is tolerance for those that are (or seem to be) different from you. By that criteria YOU ARE THE BIGGEST, MOST BADDEST RACIST on this site. And btw, when your vocabulary deserts(?) you, the profanity does not make you more credible or seem smarter than you really are. If you are so unhappy with this site and its administration, why don't you take your sorry butt out of here and go start your own chat site (maybe one especially for losers) GOOD BYE!!!!!!
Happy to be without ya" DennisF
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Camrade
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Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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Location: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2Idiot (Aleksis)

You're just a peace of shit Smile If I were a moderator you would have been banned many days ago...
You either offenced by U.S.S.R. politics east european's moron or C.I.A. agent who intended to create a public opinion about Russia Wink. But i know the real thing: you're just kind of idiot who hardly know what is the real situation like...
Leave this place and don't shit in the topics...
2Others
Ignore him cause he's just a nobody...... There's no reason to prove him anything.
2Moderators
It's a nonsense to let such a person continue his stupidity.
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AliceFromMoscow
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Joined: 10 Jul 2004
Posts: 411

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexeis Zemanova wrote:
oh yes, nice one, Alice..

We both know youre system administrator.

and that all photographs are false.

you are nothing but a African imposter



fo shizzle,
simmadown now mah izzle nizzle


Alexeis Zemanova wrote:
interesting how you deleted all the information regarding the status of the millions and millions of Muslims in Russia and FSU


Interesting how you cannot read, i'll try to rephrase... see... there was a topic... you know what a topic is?... so... there was a topic... about racism... i don't need to explain what racism is, right?... so... discussion slightly went to politics, nwo and other issues that have nothing to do with racism... so topic was split.... look here ... http://www.waytorussia.net/TalkLounge/viewtopic.php?t=1913
The blue text above is called a LINK... Try clicking it.... just put your mouse cursor on this blue line and hit the left button one time....... and read that thread...
last 5 pages were moved there...
got it?
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Dr-Fauste
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Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:18 am    Post subject: Notes Reply with quote

Dmitri, either you move lock this up & delete and Alexesis can move this discussion to unmoderated forum or you may be liable for what she says. By just moving this, you also admitted that you have editorial review on this matter. She is making WW look great.




E. BULLETIN BOARDS, INFORMATION SERVICES, CHAT ROOMS

Before enactment of the American Communications Decency Act there were two key “judge-made” American decisions addressing the liability of Website sponsors for bulletin boards, information services and chat rooms which may contain defamatory content. These two seminal American cases were: Cubby, Inc. v. CompuServe Inc. (hereinafter the “CompuServe case”) and Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Services Co. (hereinafter the “Prodigy case”). The cases have now been overtaken in American law by the Communications Decency Act but they remain significant for other jurisdictions not governed by that Act.

In the first of these cases, CompuServe subscribers could access a newsletter with the unfortunate name “Rumorville”. The defendant CompuServe did not review the content of this newsletter prior to making it available to CompuServe subscribers. The court ruled in favour of the defendant, in effect deciding that CompuServe could avail itself of the “innocent dissemination” defence discussed above with reference to e-mail. Although an American case, the decision does not appear to turn on the First Amendment but, rather, on the bounds of defamation law. The trial judge found that CompuServe had no more editorial control over the content at issue than would a public library, a bookstore or a newsstand. In effect, CompuServe prevailed because it was able to disprove any negligence on its part, that is, any circumstance which ought to have put them on notice that Rumorville contained potentially defamatory material. (See discussion of the case at Brown, p. 7-62 and Gatley, p. 147, note 74.) It is submitted that the “innocent dissemination” defence is an unsatisfactory basis to exonerate an information service, bulletin board, chat line, etc. If the plaintiff had put CompuServe on notice of the allegation that the content was defamatory, then CompuServe’s innocent status would evaporate and it would find itself with the choice of suppressing the content based on unsubstantiated allegations, on the one hand, or performing the function of an editor, on the other hand, a task for which it might be badly unsuited.

The Prodigy case also arose in the United States and involved a bulletin board. Prodigy operated a bulletin board called “Money Talk”, which permitted subscribers to post statements regarding markets and investments. A user repeatedly posted an accusation on the bulletin board that the plaintiff had been fraudulent in connection with a stock offering. Prodigy had stipulated guidelines for users and had reserved the right to edit postings. It had not only installed software to screen postings, but also supplied a monitor who supervised bulletin board postings. Users were notified of both the software screening and the ability of the monitor to edit or remove postings. On these facts, on preliminary interlocutory motions, the court ruled that Prodigy was, in fact, performing the role of a “publisher” and not that of an innocent disseminator.

The Prodigy case, following, as it did, the CompuServe case, led critics to conclude that the operator of a bulletin board or information service would not be liable if there was no editorial control attempted, but would be liable if the attempt was made and failed, no matter how reasonable the attempt.
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Dr-Fauste
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Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 654

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dmitri, either you move lock this up & delete and Alexesis can move this discussion to unmoderated forum or you may be liable for what she says. By just moving this, you also admitted that you have editorial review on this matter. She is making WW look great.




E. BULLETIN BOARDS, INFORMATION SERVICES, CHAT ROOMS

Before enactment of the American Communications Decency Act there were two key “judge-made” American decisions addressing the liability of Website sponsors for bulletin boards, information services and chat rooms which may contain defamatory content. These two seminal American cases were: Cubby, Inc. v. CompuServe Inc. (hereinafter the “CompuServe case”) and Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Services Co. (hereinafter the “Prodigy case”). The cases have now been overtaken in American law by the Communications Decency Act but they remain significant for other jurisdictions not governed by that Act.

In the first of these cases, CompuServe subscribers could access a newsletter with the unfortunate name “Rumorville”. The defendant CompuServe did not review the content of this newsletter prior to making it available to CompuServe subscribers. The court ruled in favour of the defendant, in effect deciding that CompuServe could avail itself of the “innocent dissemination” defence discussed above with reference to e-mail. Although an American case, the decision does not appear to turn on the First Amendment but, rather, on the bounds of defamation law. The trial judge found that CompuServe had no more editorial control over the content at issue than would a public library, a bookstore or a newsstand. In effect, CompuServe prevailed because it was able to disprove any negligence on its part, that is, any circumstance which ought to have put them on notice that Rumorville contained potentially defamatory material. (See discussion of the case at Brown, p. 7-62 and Gatley, p. 147, note 74.) It is submitted that the “innocent dissemination” defence is an unsatisfactory basis to exonerate an information service, bulletin board, chat line, etc. If the plaintiff had put CompuServe on notice of the allegation that the content was defamatory, then CompuServe’s innocent status would evaporate and it would find itself with the choice of suppressing the content based on unsubstantiated allegations, on the one hand, or performing the function of an editor, on the other hand, a task for which it might be badly unsuited.

The Prodigy case also arose in the United States and involved a bulletin board. Prodigy operated a bulletin board called “Money Talk”, which permitted subscribers to post statements regarding markets and investments. A user repeatedly posted an accusation on the bulletin board that the plaintiff had been fraudulent in connection with a stock offering. Prodigy had stipulated guidelines for users and had reserved the right to edit postings. It had not only installed software to screen postings, but also supplied a monitor who supervised bulletin board postings. Users were notified of both the software screening and the ability of the monitor to edit or remove postings. On these facts, on preliminary interlocutory motions, the court ruled that Prodigy was, in fact, performing the role of a “publisher” and not that of an innocent disseminator.
The Prodigy case, following, as it did, the CompuServe case, led critics to conclude that the operator of a bulletin board or information service would not be liable if there was no editorial control attempted, but would be liable if the attempt was made and failed, no matter how reasonable the attempt.

319. (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of
(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

Wilful promotion of hatred
(2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

Defences
(3) No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2)

(a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true;

(b) if, in good faith, he expressed or attempted to establish by argument an opinion on a religious subject;

(c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true; or

(d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada.

Forfeiture
(4) Where a person is convicted of an offence under section 318 or subsection (1) or (2) of this section, anything by means of or in relation to which the offence was committed, on such conviction, may, in addition to any other punishment imposed, be ordered by the presiding provincial court judge or judge to be forfeited to Her Majesty in right of the province in which that person is convicted, for disposal as the Attorney General may direct.

Exemption from seizure of communication facilities
(5) Subsections 199(6) and (7) apply with such modifications as the circumstances require to section 318 or subsection (1) or (2) of this section.

Consent
(6) No proceeding for an offence under subsection (2) shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.

Definitions
(7) In this section,

"communicating" «communiquer»
"communicating" includes communicating by telephone, broadcasting or other audible or visible means;


"identifiable group" «groupe identifiable»
"identifiable group" has the same meaning as in section 318;


"public place" «endroit public»
"public place" includes any place to which the public have access as of right or by invitation, express or implied;

"statements" «déclarations»
"statements" includes words spoken or written or recorded electronically or electro-magnetically or otherwise, and gestures, signs or other visible representations.


WTR is liable for slander and hatred literature, because they are moderatring the forum. If they did not moderate the forum, then they would not be liable, but would have to give you if you are posting hate literature. If you talk to any American lawyer, waiver mean jack all. That is why Dmitri has started an unmoderated forum.
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AliceFromMoscow
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexeis Zemanova wrote:
Alice,

I'm genuinely sorry . That was probably pushing the envelope a bit, but i had just explained my position and wasn't prepared for the sarcasm; you know what our situation is, if you dont want to indulge, then perhaps you and I might agree to disagree? Once again, if you are truly a woman, I am awfully sorry if I have sounded insensitive. I just wish you would reveal more so that we may bury the hatchet..


Define your position already, you say "i'm sorry" and "fuck you" alternately.

One advice from little african me, next time you gonna post something, stop for a moment and ask yourself: is there really any sense to post this? What will i get if i post this?...
you, being a spontaneous person, should really ask yourself such things more often.
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