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Are Russians Racists?
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Dr-Fauste
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read your posted in other forums. Interesting and I had to laugh my ass off that you are using their own tools against them
Have you met Aslan Maskhadov , Shamil Basayev or Aslambek Aslakhanov?
What do you think of them !!!
Lets see, there was Tokyo Rose
Alexesis should we call you Chechnya Alexesis!!! . Laughing
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Alexeis-Zemanova
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alice,
you are right, of course, I am sorry..

Dr

I certainly have not met Maskhadov, Basayev and Aslakhanov. It would be safe to say my views on them would probably contradict most people's here. It is worth pointing out that to the average Englishman though, these guys represent 'freedom fighters' and have continously held favour during the conflict(with the exception of Basayev; if he truly was responsible for Beslan, then nobody over here has any sympathy for him; but bear in mind nobody over here has any symphathy for Russia's Chechnya policy either-they see it as a
case of the blind trying to lead the blind)

What I can tell you is that these Chechen figureheads are Italian Mafia related..(official 'I-M', not the dodgy Russian variety-which is about as Italian as Flipper is a monkey!)

I will send you the link(s) that show that the Mafia are in it up to their necks..
They(the Mafia) have left so many traces in Chechnya it is unreal, and as we know, the Mafia have a history of going to the most-troubled areas of the world where people are similar looking and recruiting(as was the case during the Iranian Revolution of 1979)
You can only expect Scicily to pump out the home-grown crims. for so long!!

Suffice to say, if you look at history, you will see that the area around the Caspian Sea has traditionally always been a hotbed of activity, and why just about everybody there wants to lay claim to it.
Ps for those that aren't yet in the know; the Caspian is the most beautiful place in the world. People are surprised to see the 'tropical' mountains surrounding them.(capped with snow) beautiful waterfalls, exotic trees and fruits, every kind of animal you can think of roaming around in the mountains.. Best caviar, smoked fish that you have never even come close to tasting before IN YOUR LIFE, the nicest stretch of water to swim in, in the summer,(Ok- after GBReef in OZ) and an atmosphere/air about it that lets you know you are exactly where its at..wherever that is.

Of course, one could call me chechnya Alexeis, except I'm not Chechen....


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Dr-Fauste
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the Mafia is connected Chechnya conflict. It is quite profitable for them.

But in the other forum that you sympathize with this conflict. Do you believe that war against the NWO is the only war? Since backed the conflict and groups you have described are religious group, then it would religious wars which is mentioned by Nortradameous as the end of the world.
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Alexeis-Zemanova
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Dr FTSE Share Index,

The only thing I am in earnest support of is peace for the Caucasus. I see so much suffering there, and it breaks my heart. I believe in rooting for the underdog, because if there's no-one there for that guy, then what sort of person does that make me?

Is the NWO conflict the only one?

Its very difficult to say...

The only things we can know for certain is what is official(and evidently carried out) and that which occurs on such a scale that it too becomes apparent. I wouldn't like to speculate on the individual disputes and motives; if you try to read between the lines too much, you could end up convincing yourself practically anything.

But the known facts are still pretty horrendous..

The way I like to look at it is this; and allow me to quote both one of Britain's greatest artists and poets, Sir William Blake, who says it more eloquently than I ever could:

"Innocence dwells within wisdom, never within ignorance.."

Ironically, the real conflict is fighting that very belief..

I'm glad you mentioned Nostradamus
His visions are commonly accepted as interpreted in relation to his own experience of the world. Therefore certain things would have been interpreted as being far less or more significant than he anticipated(indeed maybe even MIS-interpreted).

I personally wouldn't base too much on his writings, because I feel that's how you end up bringing into existence 'self-fulfilling' prophecies.

Don't forget that after the short-term turmoil though, he promises 1000 years of peace.
Something many don't even know about, and those that do you never hear mention!

Ver interesting life story, though...
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Dr-Fauste
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, I was supposed to play Rugby in Georgia last summer, but it fell through. I really want to visit such area. I wanted to have my drining horns also Very Happy
I like to read Georgians tales like the one about the attractive man that was buried alive in the walls of city to get it strength.

I watched the movie Ararat about the massacre of Armenians. Most disturbing I have ever seen. There is so much hate especially amoung Arbejanians and Armenians.

You are correct about Nostradamus but I wanted to test you. Smile

Rereading The last days of socrates. There is view that that Socrates' life was basis of Jesus Christ. Although they had many similarities, it is far fetched idea.
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Dr-Fauste
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is interesting that the Caspian sea and Black SEa brought the horse riders there ever has been.

I hear so many things about Uzbeks and wonderful structures of the land.
I love to travel the lands of Alexander the Great, but unforunately that will never in my lifetime. Is life that harsh in uZbekistan that they are willing to work poor jobs in Moscow illegally?
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Alexeis-Zemanova
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr

Georgian folk tales are the best!
If you visited that part of the world, you will see that it is beautiful beyond description..small wonder Europeans claim their descendancy from there!


Look at the cause of the Armenian massacre; Ottoman expansion (bear in mind that they were also doing this across mainland Europe during the period too(FAR more maniland Europeans were killed especially during WW1 by the Ottoman Emp.-its just the Europeans prefer to forget))

if you look at the cause of the most recent conflict, it was more about the earthquake and quarelling over disputed regions.if you had the blood you would understand: THEY LOVE IT!

Armenia, Azerbaijani Georgians, all peoples of the Caucasus have always had factions that like to quarell with each other from since when time began. Its like a form of communication. Most people don't mean any harm by it; its just the way they are. They are forged from the both the toughest and most beautiful terrain on earth.
Think about hpw Russia and Iran have historically found it impossible to penetrate to the other side of the Caucasus, despite many, many attempts:
PROBABLY BECAUSE THE CAUCASIANS COME BETWEEN THEM!!

They are lovely people, bless them, but some of them are mental..

Must disagree about Socrates, though..
The basis for Jesus Christ was the story of Annahita, the Zoroastrian virgin water goddess who gave birth by immaculate conception to a saviour son. (Incidentally, this date was the 25th December-CHRISTMAS DAY IS ACTUALLY A 'BORROWED' ZOROASTRIAN DAY(nobody knows when Christ was born))

Interesting to note that the Three Wise Men Of The Magi(Magi-position of Zoroastrian clergy), came to confirm Christ's Birth by following the star from the east. Would the Bible have acknowledged this unless

a) there was a connection there?
or
b) the Wise Men really were.. wise?

If you read their teachings, you would understand they were certainly onto something..
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Alexeis-Zemanova
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr Fauste-er's Ice,

You are absolutely right in that the Caspian and The Black Sea has consistently had the best riders. These people never lost fights, against anyone. And when they did it was against other excellent riders, thus incorporating more excellent riding blood.(ie the Mongols, who completely devastated Asia, China, Europe in a marauding frenzy of epic proportions)

Uzbekistan was one of the states which most suffered from the USSR dissolution.
She relyed a lot on devepmental imports from Russia and when these dried up i guess many headed for the former Motherland in the hope of financial prosperity. others probably did something bad and didn't wan't to get tortured..you could say the government takes a dim view on crime.

These places are undescribebly beautiful; people will always want to live there, whatever the circumstances, because of that alone.

may i correct you though? Alexander held these lands for a relatively short period of time, indeed he never managed to neither match nor exceed the territory owned by the Persian Empire. the longest claim for the land goes to the Arabs for 500 years.

Lots of natural resouces, though..
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Dr-Fauste
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:18 am    Post subject: For Alexesis Reply with quote






I hope you get the humour and sarcism.
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Alexeis-Zemanova
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I do.
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Alexeis-Zemanova
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps. with regards to what i say with the Caucasus situation, and their nature; I should mention this applies only to themselves. that is why it is absolutely necessary for places like Chechnya to experience peace.
the truth is, these guys love stitching EACH OTHER up, but when it comes to a third party, thats when all hell breaks loose.. what Russia faces in Chechnya is nothing personal. It would be faced if there was Iranian intervention, Turkish intervention or even Martian intervention.

the same situation applies in Iraq. Iraqi's cant get enough of stitching each other up, its part of who they are, but as soon as a third party comes into the frame; they go insane.

The moment something becomes emotional, thats when all rationality leaves the domain, and war just becomes a mirror.

the opinion of western Europe is that if you want to take control of the Caucasus, you should have your head examined. thats because western European's take heed of the history and are contantly seeking to apply wisdom to their actions.

to this effect, and this just came on the news: Vladimir Putin has agreed to enter a program with Germany for rebuilding links with Chechnya as their sworn part of an oil purchase deal.

Thats because the Germans are very well informed and are in no way prepared to sit back and watch Chechnya get destroyed any more. The Germans understand that the last thing that you should do with these guys is ever give them yet another reason to fight.

In the words of the captured US General to the Soviet Agent regarding the people of Afghanistan in the film 'Rambo Part 3':
"You just don't get it do you? You can never defeat a people like these. They would rather die than be slaves."

You can't breed a Dobermann, and then chastize it for guarding its territory..
Well, you can, but its not going to be long until that dog starts pissing on your carpet.

I would say that there has been a huge turnaround on the part of the world with regard to attitudes in this region, and these recent developments regarding Putin and Germany and Chechnya are certainly evidence of it. So you see, even seemingly sinister characters like Vladimir Putin can pull tricks out of his hat to show you that he might not really be a bad guy at heart..

God Bless Schroeder!!
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ow28
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexeis Zemanova wrote:
Well, you can, but its not going to be long until that dog starts pissing on your carpet.


There is one very simple technique to maintain carpets clean.
Dead dog does not piss on carpet.
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Alexeis-Zemanova
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

0w28,

no, but you can bet your life his puppies will...
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blaked
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russians generally hate Chechens and have mixed feelings towards other groups from the Caucasus. Georgians consider themselves morally upright (church attendance there is as high as in the United States) and they consider Russians sexually wanton. They also speak much louder than Russians. Georgian men will talk to young Russian women as if they are whores that will sleep with everyone - this infuriates Russians. Asiatic people tend to be more entrepreneurial and make more money than average Russians, or they work menial jobs. Russians tend to have a traditional University education and are upset that such people (like the Chechen that owns the Radisson Slavyanskaya) are wealthy. My girlfriend's little brother is 16 and he and his friends often beat up people from the Caucasus, which they call 'hatchi.'
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Judge-Dread
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaked

your girlfriends little brother sounds really tough.

http://youdontstandachance.blogspot.com/2003_10_01_
youdontstandachance_archive.html

from russia with lubov
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the other cool fight i saw i was almost a part of. i was walking home one night trying to stay in the shadows but some guy just had to ask me for a cigarette and since i didnt have any i had to say no i dont have any. me and my horrible accent. he knew i wasnt russian right away and got all excited when i told him i was from california(this is before we figured out its sometimes better to say we're Estonian). luckily he wasnt a peckerwood and didnt want to kick my ass, he just wanted to have a beer with me. under normal sircumstances we dont drink alchohol because the baptists see it as one of the biggest sins, but this was no normal sircumstance, i was all alone, i couldnt explain why i didnt want a beer, and i didnt want to piss him off by declining his offer. so, me, him, and his kazak friend went and got beers(baltika 7s, it was pretty good too). he then went to get his other 2 friends, while we was doing this 2 guys came to buy beer at the kiosk and the kazak suddenly was pissed at them, they might have called him 'hatchi'. well he started yelling and all of a sudden headbutted one of the guys. it was awesome. im drinking a beer standing ringside to a fist fight. the other guy hit the ground and started getting up but the kazak hit him with his beer. i decided at this time that it would be a good idea to GET THE HELL OUGHTA THERE, so i snuck off.



Perhaps that was your girlfriends little brother??!!LOL!! Silenced
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