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RusskiCanadian23
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| yorbcbud wrote: | | RusskiCanadian23 wrote: | Hey, everybody, check out this pic:
Isn't he adorable?!  What a friendly little chimp! Talk about planet of the apes! hehe |
Holeeee!!!! That's one nefarious looking ape. |
MONKEY MAFIA!!! |
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surfguy
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Whoa...that chimp is crazy...they should have used him in Pulp Fiction
Ruskii I am the same age as you. I may get to Lviv...it is near Polish boarder in the Ukraine
CIA...no...but yes I have had some military training...but basic courses. I served for 10 years total.
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RusskiCanadian23
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| surfguy wrote: | Whoa...that chimp is crazy...they should have used him in Pulp Fiction
Ruskii I am the same age as you. I may got to Lviv...it is near Polish boarder in the Ukraine
CIA...no...but yes I have had some military training...but basic courses. I served for 10 years total. |
Among the places you've been to, you said "Russia". What kind of terrorists did you hunt in Russia? You going to tell me you spent time in Chechnya?  |
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surfguy
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| RusskiCanadian23 wrote: | | surfguy wrote: | Whoa...that chimp is crazy...they should have used him in Pulp Fiction
Ruskii I am the same age as you. I may got to Lviv...it is near Polish boarder in the Ukraine
CIA...no...but yes I have had some military training...but basic courses. I served for 10 years total. |
Among the places you've been to, you said "Russia". What kind of terrorists did you hunt in Russia? You going to tell me you spent time in Chechnya? |
No Dude those are only countries I visited...not for any terrorist stuff...hmmm...that would have made life interesting though...but no I like to travel stress free. As I said I was only trained in anti terrorism...which is a ever changing subject...terrorism that is. Chechnya is a hot bed for terrorism though. They sure messed up the Russian campaign there...and the civilian Russian population sure suffered greatly. Grovsny is the most heavily bombed European City since WWII. |
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RusskiCanadian23
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| surfguy wrote: | | RusskiCanadian23 wrote: | | surfguy wrote: | Whoa...that chimp is crazy...they should have used him in Pulp Fiction
Ruskii I am the same age as you. I may got to Lviv...it is near Polish boarder in the Ukraine
CIA...no...but yes I have had some military training...but basic courses. I served for 10 years total. |
Among the places you've been to, you said "Russia". What kind of terrorists did you hunt in Russia? You going to tell me you spent time in Chechnya? |
No Dude those are only countries I visited...not for any terrorist stuff...hmmm...that would have made life interesting though...but no I like to travel stress free. As I said I was only trained in anti terrorism...which is a ever changing subject...terrorism that is. Chechnya is a hot bed for terrorism though. They sure messed up the Russian campaign there...and the civilian Russian population sure suffered greatly. Grovsny is the most heavily bombed European City since WWII. |
Yeah, well, now, Chechens are fighting, traning terrorists, and doing all kinds of nasty things in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, etc. So, in a way, Russia has created yet another monster in this world. |
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surfguy
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| Ruskii they have been doing that since the beginning...which is why the USA and Russia are allied in the fight on Terrorism. Trust me Putin and Bush are a lot closer than we are led to believe. Russia got Iran to step down thier Nuke deal, and so the USA now has backed off too. This allows Russia to still build the reactors and the threat in Iraq will and is deminishing...which will allow Russia and the USA to share in the Oil and Gas there. That is what this is about. Now though...there is on the other front the threat of radical Islam...which Russia is also subjected to and has suffered from. Russians are just as much infedels as the Brits or the USA are and yes the Canadians. It's sad but there is a lot of politics going on too...and we Russia and the west use these terrorists to our advantage to cause strife for those who we compete with economically and to fullfill our economic interests. We all play both sides of the coin. But underneath that the Terrorists flat out hate us all. Chechnyans...hate the Russians and use the USA to help thier agenda. But too after they are done using the USA they would just as soon kill us. The USA competes with Russai and so we use the Chchnyans...in Clinton's presidency to wreak havoc on Russia. Russia uses the middle east to wreak havoc on the USA and to keep Oil Prices high...which is what is keeping Putin in power and streangthening Russia. But at the end of the Day when Russia has what it wants...it could give a rat's ass about Iraq...Iran...etc etc. Us super powers use these places for our best interests. But yes the Chechnyans are bad news!!!! |
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yorbcbud
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| surfguy wrote: | | Russia got Iran to step down thier Nuke deal, and so the USA now has backed off too. |
Russia never made anyone do anything. The latest inspections have revealed that Iran abandoned it nuclear weapons program years ago. And still the monkey in Washington won't accept the truth. Putin always knew. Thats why he warned the Bush monkey to back off of Iran. Get your facts straight 007. |
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surfguy
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| wait a second...your so called monkey in Washington just came out and acknowledged it. Accepted it. There is something called politics and negotiationg for interests that are at play BC...something you fail time and time again to realize...what is shown on the surface...more often than not is not what is really happening. |
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surfguy
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| Realize too...that Russia and Iran are merely economic trade partners...they still compete with one another and trust me...Russia does not want to see Iran get a Nuke or become too powerful where it becomes a threat to Russia. Russia is at a struggle with Radical Islam that is being funded by Iran to stir trouble up in a place called Chechnya...and Dagestan...and some of the other regions there...and why? It's quite simple...the Caspian Sea has huge oil deposits...and Persia ruled that entire region...long before the USSR ever had control of it. Infact it was the Parthians whom the Persians took the region from. Study Parthyia...very fascinating and really shows who truly influenced that whole region there. Let me suggest Studying the Georgia and the Golden Fleece...it's another amazing tale. Anyways so much history there that started the whole migration movement up into Russia. Putin is a Oil Tycoon now...as is the Bush family...they are more closely allied than what is led to believe. Russia and the USA are the two largest military technologies and product producers in the world...Iran get's thier's from Russia...they need russia. Russia needs Iran to keep the Muslims at bay. Let there be strife and trust me Russia would squash Iran. Putin came and met with GW just before he went to Iran and met with the Caspian 5...uh huh...think what you want. In fact it's really best you don't concern yourself with these matters BC...turn the lights out and put on some floyd...spark one up and imagine yourself being lifted off in the Buran...take that journey...live life in the cosmos! |
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RusskiCanadian23
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| That is a load of bullshit, surfguy! Look, if you don't get it yet, let me spell it out for you: Russia and US of A are not friends, allies, accomplices, or whatever else. There are no secret deals or pacts between them. In fact, anti-American sentiment is so strong in today's Russia, that on a Russian TV talk show, I was watching, called "K Bariery!" ("To The Barrier!"), where two people, usually famous politicians, writers, etc., one of whome challenges the other to this duel of words, argue, and the people get to vote on who they support, and whoever gets most votes, wins the duel, and on this particular night, there were these two people on the show, one, an arch nationalist, a Putin ally, totally hostily to any idea of Russia even standing anywhere near the "Nazi Germany of the 21st Century" as he referred to it. The other guy, an analyst on anything that has to do with Russia, and former USSR, a Russian immigrant to the US, very pro-US, saying that US is the only true ally Russia still has left. He also supported the US foreign policy, saying the US "sowed the seeds of Democracy, wherever it went". Well, I'll tell you how it ended, Surfey, in case you don't guess yourself: the first guy got some 68,000 votes at the end of the show, and the votes still kept pouring in! The second scored barely 13,000 points, and was practically booed off the show! If that doesn't tell you anthing, what will? |
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surfguy
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| Ruskii that doesn't mean crap...it's TV!...Means nothing! Sure Russia is promoting a anti USA policy...it's a unifying slogan to get the blame off of the Russian Gov and onto the USA...to rally the people. But Russia is indebted to the west, Russia's monetary assetts are in western banks...you don't get it Ruskii. It's not about what the Russian people think...never has been in Russia. Now my point is to say that with the war on Radical Islam and Terrorism...yes Russia and the USA are very much Allied...Putin and Bush have always said this. When it comes to economic terms-yes we are competitors...but's that they way it is with all bussinesses. Competition is what creates profit and the exchange of monies and commerce and goods. It helps to create and control supply and demand which is what helps to determine prices. |
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surfguy
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watch oil prices drop Ruskii...say Poka to the Russian economy!
| Quote: | | Yeah, well, now, Chechens are fighting, traning terrorists, and doing all kinds of nasty things in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, etc. |
Hah! I said this on this forum long before you ever came here or brought this up... I used to argue the reality of this with Bc's buddy Xela. Yep turned out I was right! |
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surfguy
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| Quote: | Russia retreats into repression
By Ignacio Ramonet
THE hostage stand-off in Beslan, North Ossetia, was called Russia’s 9/11 and the comparison is valid in an important way: Russia can now see the world in terms of pre-Beslan and post-Beslan, just as the United States divides time into pre-and post-9/11, 2001. The mass hostage-taking on 3 September became a nightmare with at least 370 people dead, some 160 of them children. The world looked on mortified as this slaughter of the innocents happened before its eyes; it was also horrified by the Russian special forces’ brutal and blundering intervention.
Beslan marks a turning point in the continuing wars of the Caucasus (see The Caucasian melting-pot heats up). The hostage takers had a frightening capacity for violence, but the security services’ failure to prevent the tragedy was equally shocking. Beslan is the biggest crisis Vladimir Putin has faced since becoming Russia’s president. It is not clear that he fully understands why this is so. "We must admit that we had not grasped the complexity and the severity of the processes under way in our own country and elsewhere in the world," said Putin the day after the siege ended in disaster. This statement was meant to reinforce the idea that Russia shares an adversary in common with other nations - international terrorism, a euphemism for radical Islam, or what some call the worldwide Islamic jihad.
This is the same tragic mistake that President George Bush made when he decided to attack Iraq in March 2003 as a way to combat al-Qaida. Like the Bush administration, Russia’s government is now declaring a war and talking about the need for a strong state. This means sweeping and largely anti-democratic changes to Russia’s political system (1), increased resources for the armed forces and increased powers to deploy them in pre-emptive strikes. "We will take all measures to liquidate terrorist bases in any region of the world," said Colonel General Yuri Baluyevsky, chief of the military’s general staff (2).
What Putin and his government refuse to admit is that the rise of terrorism and radical Islam in Russia’s territories in the Caucasus are both the symptoms of discontent and means of expression for primarily nationalist concerns. And history shows that nationalism is an exceptionally resilient and powerful source of political energy, as the Palestinians have demonstrated.
Nationalism is probably the single most important force in modern history: colonialism, imperialism and totalitarianism failed to stamp it out. Nationalism makes any alliances necessary to further its cause. We are seeing this now in Afghanistan and Iraq, where nationalism and radical Islam are coming together in national liberation struggles that have created horrible forms of terrorism.
The same thing is happening in Chechnya. From the start the Chechens were the strongest fighters against Russia’s conquest of the Caucasus. They bravely resisted Russian occupation as early as 1918 and then declared independence in 1991 as soon as the Soviet Union disintegrated. This led to the first Russo-Chechen war, which ended in August 1996 with the Chechens victorious - but Chechnya had been all but destroyed by the years of conflict.
The Russian army invaded Chechnya again in 1999 after a wave of terrorist attacks. This second war completed the destruction interrupted in 1996. Russia then held local elections in Chechnya, making sure that all key positions were filled by people who would obey the Moscow line. But the Chechen resistance did not disarm. It continued to attack and the Russians continued their policy of violent repression (3).
In the geopolitical context there are no easy solutions to the Chechen problem. The Russian authorities are less than pleased about the new economic and military ties between the US and Georgia and Azerbaijan, two independent countries just south of Chechnya. Moscow is beginning to feel like a superpower under siege, given Bush’s recent decision to move German-based US forces closer to Russia - into Bulgaria, Romania, Poland and Hungary.
Putin’s response has been to maintain the Russian bases in Georgia and Azerbaijan, despite the opposition of their governments, and to reinforce Russia’s alliance with Armenia, which is still illegally occupying part of Azerbaijan. He is also supporting separatist movements in the Georgian provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
Unable to defeat the Chechen resistance on the ground, the Russians intend to prove their continuing power in the greater Caucasus. They are haunted by their humiliation in Afghanistan, but losing to Chechnya’s radical Islamists would be even more humiliating, since the total Chechen population is less than a million. Moreover it could easily trigger a chain reaction across the region, leading to further territorial losses for Russia. This is why Moscow so bluntly refuses to negotiate or to recognise a right to self-rule. But the brutal repression that goes with this policy is creating terrorist monsters prepared to commit terrible crimes. |
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| yorbcbud wrote: | | StephenB. wrote: |
I have NEVER SAID it was a digusting city. |
If you say so. But that's not the idea one would have gotten from your post when you returned from Kazan.
| Quote: | | Oh yeah...the toilets..not enough water to flush everything down in one flush...the tanks are too small..lol Laughing Also there is not the American version of a roll of toilet paper..you know the one that has a hole in it so it fits on the roller? The toilet paper was in a tight roll with no hole..so you either had to leave it on the floor ..gross...or on a sink..if water gets on it it's like a sponge you can't use it again. Also, the mosquitos are the size of baby bats...only kidding..however, they are big in Kazan..and the hotel windows had no screens so if you open the window the mosquitos and flies...yes flies at this time of the year are sleeping in your room with you. One more time I have to say the air quality is the worst..I was all choked up the minute I walked out on to the street. Shocked |
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Like I said before moron I didn't like the pollution where did I say that the city of Kazan was digusting or I hated it?? Bathrooms and air pollution..God one can say that about any city in the World including NYC..Like I said before, BC you love to twist stories around for your benefit. Also, you should get out of that little town of yours and see the world you have nothing to contribute to this forum, but find it amusing twisting other people's words. You're truely an overage pot head that needs to get a reality check on life. Treat yourself for Christmas and go for the first time to Vancouver, BC...you're love it!! |
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