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RusskiCanadian23
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I won't show you the other place, because I almost qualify as a slumlord, on that one. |
It's not, by any chance, one of those... You know... In Surrey? Is it?  |
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yorbcbud
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And you don't maybe think, that pot is worse then alcohol? It's more addictive, and when you are high, you have less control of your body, then when you are drunk! |
No. Absolutely not. When was the last time you heard of someone getting run over by a stoned driver? Pot's not addictive. Take it from one who knows. I only smoke pot in the wintertime. Can you make a statement like that about alcohol? Hardly addictive, my friend. When i used to get drunk, I had the most ridiculous thoughts, like the one where I could actually drive home. I remember a few times, leaning out the window, so I could see the yellow line, and stay to the right of it. On my bike, it was easier, better field of vision. |
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yorbcbud
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| RusskiCanadian23 wrote: | | yorbcbud wrote: |
I won't show you the other place, because I almost qualify as a slumlord, on that one. |
It's not, by any chance, one of those... You know... In Surrey? Is it? |
You mean " Slurrey", don't you? I know what you mean, but, no, it's not there. It's a leased lot on Okanagan Lake, in Vernon. I built a half dozen houses, on leased land, from the Natives. I sold all, but one. |
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surfguy
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| Alcohol is the worse drug out there...and pot is very addictive! |
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yorbcbud
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| surfguy wrote: | | ..and pot is very addictive! |
Do you speak from personal experience? If not, what do you base this statement on? I've used, and quit for months, and years at a time. And I never craved it. Remember, it's not crack, or meth, or alcohol. It doesn't have the powerful effect that those drugs do. Unless you've used it, you really don't know enough to form an opinion either way. Unless you count munchies as a life threatening side effect.  |
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surfguy
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well I know people who are addicted...and I know people who are like you and can stop. Depends on the person really. But it is addictive...mentally. You are right though it's not like crack or meth...or heroin. Or alcohol. Personally I am for the legalization of marijauna. But no I no longer partake in lighting up...out grew that years ago. I know people your age who have to smoke everyday...have to because they are addicted...and are "burnouts"
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surfguy
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all sorts of information about marijuana addiction is available on the web
| Quote: | Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
A study of college students has shown that critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning are impaired among people who use marijuana heavily, even after discontinuing its use for at least 24 hours. Researchers compared 65 "heavy users," who had smoked marijuana a median of 29 of the past 30 days, and 64 "light users," who had smoked a median of 1 of the past 30 days. After a closely monitored 19- to 24-hour period of abstinence from marijuana and other illicit drugs and alcohol, the undergraduates were given several standard tests measuring aspects of attention, memory, and learning. Compared to the light users, heavy marijuana users made more errors and had more difficulty sustaining attention, shifting attention to meet the demands of changes in the environment, and in registering, processing, and using information. These findings suggest that the greater impairment among heavy users is likely due to an alteration of brain activity produced by marijuana. Longitudinal research on marijuana use among young people below college age indicates those who used marijuana have lower achievement than the non-users, more acceptance of deviant behavior, more delinquent behavior and aggression, greater rebelliousness, poorer relationships with parents, and more associations with delinquent and drug-using friends. Research also shows more anger and more regressive behavior (thumb sucking, temper tantrums) in toddlers whose parents use marijuana than among the toddlers of non-using parents.
Effects on Pregnancy
Any drug of abuse can affect a mother's health during pregnancy, making it a time when expectant mothers should take special care of themselves. Drugs of abuse may interfere with proper nutrition and rest, which can affect good functioning of the immune system. Some studies have found that babies born to mothers who used marijuana during pregnancy were smaller than those born to mothers who did not use the drug. In general, smaller babies are more likely to develop health problems. A nursing mother who uses marijuana passes some of the THC to the baby in her breast milk. Research indicates that the use of marijuana by a mother during the first month of breast-feeding can impair the infant's motor development (control of muscle movement).
Addictive Potential
A drug is addicting if it causes compulsive, often uncontrollable drug craving, seeking, and use, even in the face of negative health and social consequences. Marijuana meets this criterion. More than 120,000 people enter treatment per year for their primary marijuana addiction. In addition, animal studies suggest marijuana causes physical dependence, and some people report withdrawal symptoms.
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StephenB.
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| yorbcbud wrote: | | StephenB. wrote: |
motorhome is good...you can pick up and leave anytime if you don't like your neighbors...lol |
Yeah, that was the point. I own two other properties. ( this one is a partnership ) I have a very cool historic log cabin, well over 150 years old, on 5 acres.
I won't show you the other place, because I almost qualify as a slumlord, on that one. |
What kind of roof is that? If it's metal would that drive you crazy during a rain storm..the pounding? |
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yorbcbud
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What kind of roof is that? If it's metal would that drive you crazy during a rain storm..the pounding? |
It had a cedar shake roof for the first hundred years, but we try not to use them any more, because of the fire hazard. BC building code calls for 50 lb roofing felt under tin, for the noise reduction, but our attics have R-40 fibreglass insulation, 13 inches thick, so you don't hear much anyway. It is still a little noisy, something like the noise that rain would make hitting MrSpice's head, since there's nothing in it, it would be loud. |
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yorbcbud
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| surfguy wrote: | | well I know people who are addicted...and I know people who are like you and can stop. Depends on the person really. But it is addictive...mentally. You are right though it's not like crack or meth...or heroin. Or alcohol. Personally I am for the legalization of marijauna. But no I no longer partake in lighting up...out grew that years ago. I know people your age who have to smoke everyday...have to because they are addicted...and are "burnouts" |
While I would never say that smoking pot isn't harmful, I would say that people who become addicted to it have greater problems, ( self esteem, etc) When I smoke, it takes two days to finish a joint. Hardly a huge addiction. The narcotic effects of pot are so small, I just can't see how a person could come to rely on it. |
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surfguy
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well I'm not really calling you an addict...as you did state you are mainly a seasonal user. But trust me I know plenty of true potheads...and it's a shame because I see them just deteriorating...and it's sad when they have kids.
Metal roofs are good for snow too...and yes here too shake roofs are no longer used...fire codes |
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MrSpice
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| yorbcbud wrote: | | The narcotic effects of pot are so small, I just can't see how a person could come to rely on it. |
You say the effects are small, but what about all the hair on you?
After all your arguments with surfguy, I kind of suspected that you like to put harmful things in your mouth.. |
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yorbcbud
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| MrSpice wrote: | | yorbcbud wrote: | | The narcotic effects of pot are so small, I just can't see how a person could come to rely on it. |
You say the effects are small, but what about all the hair on you?
After all your arguments with surfguy, I kind of suspected that you like to put harmful things in your mouth.. |
The hair thing is caused by Testosterone, something you don't have, so you wouldn't understand, it's a "man" thing.
I don't suppose my comments would be any worse than the toxic things that come out of your mouth. I've always been a polite, and courteous poster here. You, however, are rather crude, and vulgar. You claim it's humour, but I just don't know. |
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MrSpice
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I don't suppose my comments would be any worse than the toxic things that come out of your mouth. I've always been a polite, and courteous poster here. You, however, are rather crude, and vulgar. You claim it's humour, but I just don't know. |
You're not always polite. Be honest. |
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007India
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| Quote: | | well I'm not really calling you an addict...as you did state you are mainly a seasonal user. But trust me I know plenty of true potheads...and it's a shame because I see them just deteriorating...and it's sad when they have kids. |
In INDIA even a supari pot is against to law and it will be seized, even some one tried in a different way of boiling tobacco leaves and adding a pleasant odour material to it and because of that may people slowly used to go there, later there is a raid and its declared above normal and the shop was raided. |
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