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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yorbcbud wrote:

Feeble, Spicey, very feeble. So what are you and the Mrs doing for Christmas in NYC?


Nothing really - just relaxing. I assume you'll be playing a snowman for your local kids and let them play with your snowballs.
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyway, in response to what India, and Russia work together on, here's some info, albeit not as recent as I'd like.
http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=141

relationship btw INDIA and russia doesn't appear nice as in olden days. some of the deals are off in last minute. Even in airline shopping there is a dialogue. now INDIA is like pakistan more inclined to buy US made systems. In the global arena it seems that Europe had lot of differences with US even the UN and NATO are towards US, even in AGM europe wants to quit. INDIA is now highly under pressure from US. even the purchase of 43 airbus which was announced earlier is canceled and redirected towards boeing and even in UAE airshow there is a big arms deal going on. If Russia, Europe and INDIA join hands then to me its fine as everybody will get equally benefited.

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Hey Surfguy, you'll find this interesting: Russia, China, and India are working together to fight terrorism and keep order in that part of the world. Who needs the US, eh?

even the recent report confirms that there is no nuclear activity after 2003. but still US says it will use war as an option. this is the same attitude they followed in IRAQ and till day they couldn't find even a single evidence.
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yorbcbud
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrSpice wrote:
yorbcbud wrote:

Feeble, Spicey, very feeble. So what are you and the Mrs doing for Christmas in NYC?


Nothing really - just relaxing. I assume you'll be playing a snowman for your local kids and let them play with your snowballs.


No, no snowmen. Not quite hairy enough for Santa, my pond has frozen, so all the kids can skate, since the lake doesn't freeze till Feb.
It has to be a very, very special person, before I'll share my snowballs. I know what you mean though. I try to just relax for Christmas as well. I was going to go to Russia, but I bought more toys, so it gets put off for another year. Frankly, I have a lot of fun, right here at home, as I'm sure you do.
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yorbcbud
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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even the recent report confirms that there is no nuclear activity after 2003. but still US says it will use war as an option. this is the same attitude they followed in IRAQ and till day they couldn't find even a single evidence.


That's why America needs a democrat like Hillary in office. Takes a woman to fix the mess that men have made, IMHO
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BS. This is a disturbing thing for you to say. Why would you even talk about something that could hurt so many people? Please explain. The whole Air India thing was a devastating thing for Canada, and our friends in India.


yes, i know thats why i said i will never sell myself to create something that creates a devastating effect. i just drafted a simple logic how it works. for a student from electronics background its nothing.

I read about the kanishka air crash, its really bad. several kids are dead in that. Now i read something in the local news paper with in last weak. it said that the Ireland authorities did a crappy work.
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yorbcbud
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BS. This is a disturbing thing for you to say. Why would you even talk about something that could hurt so many people? Please explain. The whole Air India thing was a devastating thing for Canada, and our friends in India.


yes, i know thats why i said i will never sell myself to create something that creates a devastating effect. i just drafted a simple logic how it works. for a student from electronics background its nothing.

I read about the kanishka air crash, its really bad. several kids are dead in that. Now i read something in the local news paper with in last weak. it said that the Ireland authorities did a crappy work.

Canadian authorities did a crappy job, as well. I felt very sorry for all the Indian families in Canada, who could never truly put it to rest.
BTW, 329 people died, including more than 60 below the age of ten.
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

read this

http://somasundaram-e.blogspot.com/2007/07/ships-aerophobia-statistics-1000000th.html
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yorbcbud
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bswaminathan wrote:
read this

http://somasundaram-e.blogspot.com/2007/07/ships-aerophobia-statistics-1000000th.html


I'm sorry, but I don't see how this relates to the Air India crash. Question It was no accident, nor the result of random events, we just couldn't prove it in court.
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not an accident. only a planned terrorist event. but immediately they figured out the culprit. still some airlines are committing this....

# when ever a passenger doesn't board the aircraft there baggae must be offloaded and it has to be confirmed.
# during a onward journey all the luggages have to be scanned. its good even if the cargo compartment of the aircraft hosts some strong scanners to detect the baggage.
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yorbcbud
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bswaminathan wrote:
its not an accident. only a planned terrorist event. but immediately they figured out the culprit. still some airlines are committing this....

# when ever a passenger doesn't board the aircraft there baggae must be offloaded and it has to be confirmed.
# during a onward journey all the luggages have to be scanned. its good even if the cargo compartment of the aircraft hosts some strong scanners to detect the baggage.

Well, I was partners in a company, with a Sikh friend, and he lost family members in that crash, and I saw what that did to him, and I won't forget that anytime soon. That's why people who support violence, and wars, really bother me. It's such a useless thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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surfguy wrote:
RusskiCanadian23 wrote:
Hey Surfguy, you'll find this interesting: Russia, China, and India are working together to fight terrorism and keep order in that part of the world. Who needs the US, eh? Laughing

good as I hope they get a handle on it. Why just in that part of the world though? Terrorism is after all a global issue. But yes Russia is one of the leaders in anti terrorism


Word wide terrorism usually occurs at places where America has embassies, or in countries that support America. Prove I'm wrong. Rolling Eyes


Umm..Chechnya...Beslan...Moscow theater, Darfur, etc etc
http://www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
here this link will help you keep tabs on things
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yorbcbud
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

surfguy wrote:

Umm..Chechnya...Beslan...Moscow theater, Darfur, etc etc

here this link will help you keep tabs on things


Except for Darfur, those are all Russian internal matters. And none of them qualify as worldwide terrorism, ( unless they decide to bring it over here). So far, they have not. America, on the other hand, has been targeted since 1920.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I guarantee you...that today we willnot see another airplane hijacking on western planes...I know too many commercial pilots who fly and access to the cabins is too restricted and many of the pilots now will kill in defense of the plane and are definitely trained to. So it would have to be a bomb going off. Also no longer will 300 passengers sit in thier seats and not bum rush any terrorists. Also there is speculations that the plane that crashed into the field on 9-11 was brought down by the gov...not sure if this is true or not and perhaps we will never know. But I can say this...high jacked planes will be shot out of the sky. And really if someone wanted to bring down a plane...all they have to do is shoot it down on approach or take off. Box cutters etc are not needed...a simple ink pen in the jugular is all that is needed. A women's stillehto is a good weapon too. Nope the days of the high jacking are pretty much gone. Oh and yes...Bird strikes are brutal on planes...but Commercial jet engines are designed to ingest whole frozen turkeys
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yorbcbud wrote:
surfguy wrote:

Umm..Chechnya...Beslan...Moscow theater, Darfur, etc etc

here this link will help you keep tabs on things


Except for Darfur, those are all Russian internal matters. And none of them qualify as worldwide terrorism, ( unless they decide to bring it over here). So far, they have not. America, on the other hand, has been targeted since 1920.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html



Are you kidding me...even russkii just pointed out that the link in those incidents are al queda. Also WWI started as a result of a terrorist act. So did the Russian Revolution. Really BC you need to study world affairs...ask any Russian if Beslan was a terrorist act...hell even Putin says it was.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

once more...with the exception of two of these incidents all of them are related to radical islamic extremist. Plus there is only one listed prior to the 1970s which happened in 1920...sure your statement that it has always been against the usa is exhagerated and unfounded...come only one in 1920...surely you can do better
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