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HomesoulUS Frequent Guest Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 22	Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Back in the late 18th and early 19th Century Russia used to own Alaska,and parts of California. The Czars had no use for them and now the Americans have them.
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gomer WayToRussified Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 445	Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Soundbrigade wrote: Remeber though, that Russian tends to as strongest when it is down on its knees and as weakest when it is as richest and biggest. Both the Poles back in the 13th century(?), Napoleon and not to mention Hitler struck when Russia/Soviet was really in the sh*t. Don't forget the British in the Crimean War.
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: HomesoulUS wrote: Back in the late 18th and early 19th Century Russia used to own Alaska,and parts of California. The Czars had no use for them and now the Americans have them. Ha don't kid yourself the Mexicans have California LOL
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RusskiCanadian23 Lounge Wizard Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 1104 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada/Ванкувер, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: gomer wrote: Soundbrigade wrote: Remeber though, that Russian tends to as strongest when it is down on its knees and as weakest when it is as richest and biggest. Both the Poles back in the 13th century(?), Napoleon and not to mention Hitler struck when Russia/Soviet was really in the sh*t. Don't forget the British in the Crimean War. The British, and French, and Turks... all at the same time
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: 3. Russian media isn’t free “Putin administration has grown uglier: the media is now—with a few embattled exceptions in print and on the Internet— entirely under state control.” (“Meet the Chief Exec of Kremlin Inc ...” by Nick Paton Walsh; The Guardian; july 6, 2005) RussiaBlog: Far from simply affirming the government’s actions, many Russian media outlets are openly critical of the Kremlin—and some refuse to acknowledge any positive changes achieved in the last few years. There are approximately 1,100 TV channels, 670 radio stations and 50,000 newspapers in Russia. Independent Internet media are very popular where Internet access is available. Only 20 percent of the population gets its information from state-owned media, with the majority of Russian Tv-viewers preferring private programming and entertainment. In Russia, Western TV news channels such as cnn, FoX, BBc, euronews, and others are widely available and often freely broadcast.
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject: 4. Brutality and human rights abuses run rampant in Chechnya Quote: “Human Rights Watch says Russia resumed harsh campaign of torture, abductions and political killings in Chechnya ...” (“Russia using Brutality to suppress chechens, Rights Group says” by Barbara crossette; The New York Times; February 28, 2002) “… Amnesty said its field workers had discovered there was “no end to gross human rights violations” in Chechnya and Ingushetia. In a briefing paper published today, the group said its research implicated the Russian authorities “in the torture, abduction and secret detention of civilians.” (“‘no end’ to Chechnya Rights Abuses, Says Amnesty” by Mark Oliver; The Guardian; september 30, 2005) RB: When hundreds of islamic militant groups in chechnya were fighting the Russian army—which tried to restore Constitutional rule in this Russian region—casualties were tremendous on both sides, including among civilians. Although some representatives of the Federal forces displayed brutal behavior, the government did its best to punish such unlawful conduct. Colonel Yuri Budanov, who raped and murdered a chechen woman, was publicly prosecuted, stripped of his rank, and is now serving time in prison. The trial was covered nationwide by all major media outlets. It is true that Chechnya has suffered more violence than Iraq—with beheadings, crucifixions and other torture inflicted by Islamic terrorists against peaceful citizens and young Russian soldiers. Foreign journalists refuse to acknowledge, however, any improvements in Chechnya. In 2005, more than 7,000 fighters freely laid down their arms and took part in free elections, which were considered by international observers to be both smooth and successful. Russian army casualties dropped from 1,397 in 2000 to 28 in 2005. The Chechen government has been supportive of the Kremlin—and regional leaders are successfully enforcing the new Chechen constitution. as a result, 250,000 refugees have returned home and established some 30,000 new businesses. Chechnya’s new Prime Minister Ramzan Kadyrov, who is Muslim, enjoys an 85 percent approval rating and has promised to make chechnya “the most peaceful and prosperous region in the world” in only two years. Just two years ago, the city was in ruins, but now, the largest mosque in the world is being built along with a five-star hotel in downtown Grozny. In 2006, an organization called Russian Ministries successfully ran several christian summer camp sessions for chechen children in Grozny. Despite these and many other positive strides, however, U.S. media continues to focus on the violence.
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Soundbrigade Frequent Guest Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Posts: 50 Location: Sweden	Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Novie Russkie: Spent a week in Paris these last days (New Years Eve). It was no problem to spot different nationalities among the hords of tourists: Japanese tourists with their cameras, posing one-by-one and being photographed by the rest of the group. Italians taking up lots of space, never stepping aside to let someone pass, like they were the rulers of the world. Americans with 25-stone backpacks. Wonder why American tourists tour the city with that much package. There's a fr'**ing restaurant everywhere. Russians are easy to spot. The women are almost always dressed in fur coats or jackets or fur hat (or all). They wear ultra tigt jeans with beads or pearls or gold/silver print and those terrible boots with ultra-long toes that looks like skies. And when you approch them, they always talk about what fashionable stores they have visited and what they bought.
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Soundbrigade wrote: Novie Russkie: Spent a week in Paris these last days (New Years Eve). It was no problem to spot different nationalities among the hords of tourists: Japanese tourists with their cameras, posing one-by-one and being photographed by the rest of the group. Italians taking up lots of space, never stepping aside to let someone pass, like they were the rulers of the world. Americans with 25-stone backpacks. Wonder why American tourists tour the city with that much package. There's a fr'**ing restaurant everywhere. Russians are easy to spot. The women are almost always dressed in fur coats or jackets or fur hat (or all). They wear ultra tigt jeans with beads or pearls or gold/silver print and those terrible boots with ultra-long toes that looks like skies. And when you approch them, they always talk about what fashionable stores they have visited and what they bought. It's funny...stereotypes...hmmm I've known quite a few loud swedes. Yes the back pack thing for Americans has to end...makes me think of the fanny pack thing in the Movie Hostel...too funny. As for Russian women...ok well being that I am in the Ukraine...hey these women here dress very well. And the fur and the boots and the tight jeans...whoa-look out! Some of the coats being worn here are worth more than so many cars...hmmm...PETA wouldn't make it here
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: 6 Kremlin supports Hamas, Iran and radical groups Quote: “On March 3, Hamas envoys will arrive in Moscow. Their Russian hosts have prepared a banquet fit for a sultan. Gifts will be abundant. Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov has offered to provide Hamas with foreign aid. There may even be shipments of everything from guns to helicopters.” (“a Russian Ruse” by ilya Bourtman; National Review; March 2, 2006) “This is 100 percent, non-alloyed, near-perfect and totally bananas anti-Semitism—not the work of rational minds. It is, though, the work of the very people whom Putin … would meet with. He would do so, apparently, without one word being changed in this repellent covenant—or without Hamas’s renouncing its intention to obliterate Israel.” (“a Disturbing invitation” by Richard cohen; The Washington Post; February 14, 2006) RussiaBlog: Not only has Putin never met with hamas, but Russian Foreign Minister Sergey lavrov made it clear that the group would be treated as an “undeveloped teenager” until it recognizes Israel. After Hamas representatives explicitly stated their unwillingness to make peace with Israel as they deplaned in Moscow, Putin deemed a meeting with the Palestinian leaders impossible. It is true that Hamas visited the Kremlin, but rather than meeting with the Russian president, the group joined Moscow tourists at museums and cathedrals. In effect, Russia’s Foreign Ministry told Hamas to negotiate with the Israelis if the organization wanted to receive foreign approval. Regarding construction of a nuclear power plant in iran, Russia will penalize Iran if it chooses to misuse nuclear technologies. “If Iran expels the IAEA inspectors, we will immediately halt our work,” said a high-ranking source in the Kremlin on September 8, 2006. And two days later, Putin stated that iran “should abandon its plans for nuclear enrichment on its soil,” and refused to rule out possible economic sanctions against Iran.
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: 8 New “slander” law demonstrates Kremlin’s authoritarian tendencies Quote: “Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law making slander of a public official a criminal offense …” (“Putin signs law against Slander of Public Officials” by Alan Cullison; The Wall Street Journal; july 29, 2006) “A return of dictatorship in Russia, a country armed with thousands of nuclear weapons, would present a much greater threat than the current set of tyrants now threatening U.S. security.” (“U.S. Ignores Putin’s Assault on Rights” by Michael McFaul, Carnegie Endowment; Los Angeles Times; February 2, 2003) RussiaBlog: The Russian federal law—titled “on the counteraction to the Extremist Activity”—aims to restrain radical and xenophobic organizations. Such groups are rising in popularity among Russian youths and have successfully organized several large fascist marches in 2005 and 2006. On August 21, 2006, three Russian students detonated a bomb in a Moscow public market, targeting ethnic minorities, killing 11 and injuring dozens. If there is a threat of totalitarianism in Russia, it is not a top-down problem, but rather a bottom-up one. Russians who dislike Putin often perceive him as too liberal and pro-Western. The law does not target journalists. instead, it seeks to punish those who have deliberately slandered government officials by falsely accusing them of involvement in extremism or terrorism—both of which are defined narrowly in the new law. The charge of slander would have to be proven in court. Many Western media outlets took the language of the bill out of its legal context, perpetuating an exaggerated perception of the Russian government as increasingly authoritarian. In our view, the potential acquisition of power by grassroots fascists in Russia presents the true threat to American national security.
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Soundbrigade Frequent Guest Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Posts: 50 Location: Sweden	Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: yorbcbud - I see your political ranting everywhere and in most threads it is VERY MUCH OT. Why not start a thread of your own called "Why I hate Putin, Russia or Russians". I guess your opinions will be read and accepted more easy that way. And not all are against Putin or the Russian policies in here. Consider the fact that the ideas you present are one-sioded ideas that do not belong in a forum that is supposed to increase and enhance the understanding between Russia and the West. Your rants has the opposite effect.
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: It's funny...I had a conversation about growning up durring the cold war era and really us common people whether we be American or Soviet...we all were subjected to the same nonsense...same thinking...same propaganda...when it comes down to it...really we are all the same. Gotta say getting tired of walking in the brown slush!!!!
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Soundbrigade wrote: yorbcbud - I see your political ranting everywhere and in most threads it is VERY MUCH OT. Why not start a thread of your own called "Why I hate Putin, Russia or Russians". I guess your opinions will be read and accepted more easy that way. And not all are against Putin or the Russian policies in here. Consider the fact that the ideas you present are one-sioded ideas that do not belong in a forum that is supposed to increase and enhance the understanding between Russia and the West. Your rants has the opposite effect. Maybe you, Surfguy, and StephenB can sign up together for "Comprehension classes" Try reading the posts twice, if you have trouble with english. Duh!!!! Or try the other option....." be quiet"
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Soundbrigade wrote: Novie Russkie: Spent a week in Paris these last days (New Years Eve). It was no problem to spot different nationalities among the hords of tourists: Japanese tourists with their cameras, posing one-by-one and being photographed by the rest of the group. Italians taking up lots of space, never stepping aside to let someone pass, like they were the rulers of the world. Americans with 25-stone backpacks. Wonder why American tourists tour the city with that much package. There's a fr'**ing restaurant everywhere. Russians are easy to spot. The women are almost always dressed in fur coats or jackets or fur hat (or all). They wear ultra tigt jeans with beads or pearls or gold/silver print and those terrible boots with ultra-long toes that looks like skies. And when you approch them, they always talk about what fashionable stores they have visited and what they bought. You're kind of a whiner, aren't you, buddy?
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StephenB. VIP Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 807	Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Soundbrigade wrote: yorbcbud - I see your political ranting everywhere and in most threads it is VERY MUCH OT. Why not start a thread of your own called "Why I hate Putin, Russia or Russians". I guess your opinions will be read and accepted more easy that way. And not all are against Putin or the Russian policies in here. Consider the fact that the ideas you present are one-sioded ideas that do not belong in a forum that is supposed to increase and enhance the understanding between Russia and the West. Your rants has the opposite effect. Your right Soundbrigade...YOURBCBUD aka "Ducky" is very useless on these threads, he has no idea about politics or history of Russia or the World..very small minded Canadian. He hates all people who aren't like him...small country boy from the mountains. If you look at all his threads he needs to cut people up to make himself look big. If you read my rants it's always fighting with BC because he's rude with no class. So you aren't the first one on here that has a problem with him. Also, he tries very hard to pick up women on here (Private IM's them).
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