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yorbcbud
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | Boast, no,but I had Americans who think that if we are not in the USA that we just poor people.
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Well that's an obvious thing. Communism takes away the huge gap between rich and poor. Your statement about "some" Americans is accurate. Surfguy wondered how many of us had cars up here. Do you ever watch " Talking to Americans", with Rick Mercer? That's some funny stuff.  The economists up here are starting to say that we can survive an American recession, because we've been making more efforts to drum up foreign trade. I see that our dollar is taking off again. There'll probably be another adjustment soon to interest rates. |
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yorbcbud
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| MrSpice wrote: | | Paul - Canada has adopted 90% of the American lifestyle and Canadian legal system is very similar. I would say that North East of the US (take Massachusetts as an example) is very similar to the US. But the US has lots of cookie southern states that are kind of backward where guns, religion and silly conservatism rule the day. |
Yeah, we execute people here, and sentence a guy with a doobie to 7 years in prison. Get real dude. Our legal system focuses on rehabilitation, yours on incarceration. Your legal system is straight out of the middle ages.
And we don't have hillbillies here. That's an American phenomenon. Canadians would never live without power, and water, flushing toilets. Even a welfare bum gets cable tv, and teeth too. |
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yorbcbud
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| Soundbrigade wrote: | I also find people born and raised during the socialist era more pleasant - it's like they have the ability to work and beahve in a community much better, where as the "new Russians" (новые Русские) are much more materialistic.
The former group tend to look at more "immaterial" values in life, while the latter only are interested in what car you drive, how many stars your hotel i Italy had, or how many times we've renovated our flat ...
But there are exceptions - of course. |
Seems to be a trait of men. Women, not so much. |
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Paul-Holmes
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Mr Spice, how is it American way? First of all many things are naturally the same, because until the Revolution, we were the same state (except Quebec), but the USA is like the child that got pissed off and left home on its own and Canada got its blessing from the parents.
The difference can be seen in its motto.
USA -Life Liberty and pursuit of happiness
Canada - Peace, Order and good government.
It is like comparing Ukrainians and Russians or Australians and Kiwis. Until you really know them, you can never understand the differences plus even in the USA, there is such regional differences |
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Paul-Holmes
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| Quote: | | And we don't have hillbillies here. That's an American phenomenon. Canadians would never live without power, and water, flushing toilets. Even a welfare bum gets cable tv, and teeth too |
You have not northern native reserves have you?
Many of them make a Russian village life look like a dream. |
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yorbcbud
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | | Quote: | | And we don't have hillbillies here. That's an American phenomenon. Canadians would never live without power, and water, flushing toilets. Even a welfare bum gets cable tv, and teeth too |
You have not northern native reserves have you?
Many of them make a Russian village life look like a dream. |
Paul, have you been to a reserve lately? They are all rich. Well, there are one or two in Ontario, but the government coughed up the dough to fix them. In BC, there are no poor Indian bands. They are making a fortune through settling land claims. The natives are living good here. They have substance issues, but so do us palefaces.
http://www.bcbusinessmagazine.com/bcb/business-sense/2007/06/01/back-school |
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raptor10
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| Paul Holmes wrote: |
The difference can be seen in its motto.
USA -Life Liberty and pursuit of happiness
Canada - Peace, Order and good government.
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The official Motto of the United States of America is "In God We Trust"
The official Motto of Canada is "A Mari Usque Ad Mare" which means "From Sea to Sea"
But you are correct; the difference between the US and canada can be seen in their national Mottos. |
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Paul-Holmes
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I stand corrected
It is the declaration what government is suppose to operate. Governments repsponsibility to its people.
| Quote: | | Written by Thomas Jefferson, the words in the Declaration were a departure from the orthodoxy of Locke and Smith. Locke's phrase was a list of property rights a government should guarantee its people; Jefferson's list, on the other hand, covers a much broader spectrum of rights, possibly including the guarantees of the Bill of Rights such as free speech and a fair trial. The change was not explained during Jefferson's life, so beyond this, one can only speculate about its meaning. This tripartite motto is comparable to "liberté, égalité, fraternité" (liberty, equality, fraternity) in France or "peace, order and good government" in Canada.[1] |
What is the Russian motto? |
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StephenB.
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| The Russian Motto is: From Rags to Riches. |
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RusskiCanadian23
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| StephenB. wrote: | | The Russian Motto is: From Rags to Riches. |
The motto of the Russian Empire was: "С нами Богъ!"/"God is with us!"
The motto of the Soviet Union was: "Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь!"/"Workers/Proletarians of all countries, unite!"
I am not sure what the motto of today's Russian Federation is, or if it even has one... |
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raptor10
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | I stand corrected
It is the declaration what government is suppose to operate. Governments repsponsibility to its people.
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The declaration of independence is only partially about how a government is supposed to operate, the Declaration of Independence was a document telling King Henry to F#$% Off, because we didn't like soldiers busting into our homes, our property being taken away, kangaroo courts where people did not get a fair trial, and of course the King using taxation as a tool to try to force obediance from America, by making us complete serveants of England... all things that Canada was willing to put up with. (And to be fair, only one third of American's wanted to declare independence, while one third wanted to stay a part of England, and one third did not care.)
The real document that says how government should be run and it's responsibilities to the people is the US Constitution, and the Preamble sums up the constitution pretty nicely.
| Quote: | | We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. |
But I agree with your original post that America is very different from Canada (in some ways).
On the back of the emblem of the Russian President is the motto "значение, почетность, и слава" which means, "Value, Honor, and Glory." |
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RusskiCanadian23
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| Quote: | | all things that Canada was willing to put up with |
And it paid off in the long run, I understand. Britain has, since losing its US colony, always cherished Canada, it last Dominion in North American. It has always protected Canada, helped with money, everything. Basically, we (Canada) became like a favorite child and you, America, were the runaway outcast, not even welcome in the family any more. |
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Crabman
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The declaration of independence is only partially about how a government is supposed to operate, the Declaration of Independence was a document telling King Henry to F#$% Off, ... |
Who was this King Henry guy? |
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StephenB.
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| It was King George III. |
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raptor10
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| RusskiCanadian23 wrote: | | Quote: | | all things that Canada was willing to put up with |
And it paid off in the long run, I understand. Britain has, since losing its US colony, always cherished Canada, it last Dominion in North American. It has always protected Canada, helped with money, everything. Basically, we (Canada) became like a favorite child and you, America, were the runaway outcast, not even welcome in the family any more. |
Why do you say that it paid off in the long run? Relations with Great Britain and the US are great. And the UK gives more money to the US then they do to Canada... Have you ever heard the story of the Prodigal son? Well the moral of the story was that the son that ran and came back was the son the father loved more 
UK Trade and investment: America
https://www.uktradeinvest.gov.uk/ukti/appmanager/ukti/countries?_nfls=false&_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=CountryType1&navigationPageId=/usa
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Introduction
The USA is Britain’s largest single export market, taking £28.5bn of UK goods in 2004. The UK is the sixth biggest exporter to the US, after Canada, Mexico, China, Japan and Germany. The USA is also the leading overseas destination for British investment.
What are the opportunities?
Cracking America is a common goal of pop bands and UK companies alike. The sheer size of the country means it should be treated as a series of regional markets with varying characteristics. |
UK Trade and investment: Canada
https://www.uktradeinvest.gov.uk/ukti/appmanager/ukti/countries?_nfls=false&_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=CountryType1&navigationPageId=/canada
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Introduction
The UK is Canada’s primary European trading partner. Canada is the UK’s 11th largest market, with exports reaching £3.3bn in 2004. The UK is the second largest foreign direct investor in Canada after the US.
What are the opportunities?
The market is very receptive to UK goods and services and 650 British companies already operate in Canada. With low inflation and business costs and steady economic growth, Canada offers good trade and investment opportunities for British companies in many sectors |
Seems to me that if you guys had stuck with us you'd be number one in the world! And the UK would love you more!
| Quote: | | Who was this King Henry guy? |
I forgot which King it was, because in the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson deliberately insulted the King by never saying his name... |
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