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Mogsfan
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Joined: 03 Nov 2004
Posts: 490

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent post, Randy. That's very sensible. Not to mention, good common sense considering the conditions etc. There's no way I'd ever send money like that and I don't care what the organization says it does or what its name is. It's best to do what you suggest and send clothes, personal items, or food and attempt to deliver it either personally or as directly as possible.

Quite often you read about stealing, corruption or other illegal activity regarding these so-called not-for-profit organizations or charitable organizations. If I can investigate it and/or meet them, that makes it easier to gain trust but considering you're talking about these companies and/or individuals in Russia, you are wise to use extreme caution and don't send money.
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Randy
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Joined: 13 Jul 2003
Posts: 115
Location: Texas, USA

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis,
Just a suggestion here OK. In Fort Worth, Texas there is an organization called the Edna Gladney Foundation. They have a very active adoption program going on in Russia. I believe the person in charge of this is named Paula St.John. You might get some good info there. If you need the phone number I will be glad to look it up for you, if your interested.
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Randy
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Joined: 13 Jul 2003
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Location: Texas, USA

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mogsfan,
Thanks for the compliment. I sure wish that I hadn't had to learn this the hard way...lol. But when I first started going to Russia nobody had any experience there to help me with my questions. During my first trip there my fathers words of wisdom began to ring in my ears from childhood memories. He told me, "Son, sometimes it is better to learn the hard way." I didn't understand what he was saying then, but I do now.
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DennisF
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Joined: 05 Nov 2004
Posts: 97
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Thanks everyone! Reply with quote

I really appreciate your words of encouragement and experience about travel and adoption in Russia. I spoke with Olga (for the third time) and this time she actually said a few things. Before if was only Da and Nyet. I really feel better about the whole thing after the phone call. By the was, our adoption coordinator sent us an email stating that the Russian government was putting a hold on all international adoption in order to update their database. (expected delay: 2 months). Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks again, guys.
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AliceFromMoscow
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Joined: 10 Jul 2004
Posts: 411

PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just curious... how do you choose who to adopt?
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DennisF
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Joined: 05 Nov 2004
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Location: Texas

PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Choosing a child to adopt? Reply with quote

As the story goes, 8 Russian children came to the US for two weeks and stayed with host families( the kids didn't know they were prospective adoptive families until day 12). On day 11, all host families indicated to the russian speaking escorts that they were interested in adopting. Unfortunately, one couple was not serious. The child they hosted was Olga (whom we are now adopting). All eight children went back to Russia expecting to be adopted. My brother-in-law is adopting 2 children (12 and 14 siblings) who happen to be Olga's best friends. We found out about Olga after she had already gone back to Russia. My wife and I both felt so compelled toward this one girl in the photos (before we heard the story of her aborted adoption). There are so many indications (omens, signs from God if you will). Olga is a singer. We are a very musical family. Olga had told everyone how she wanted a family with a brother and a sister. I have a son and a daughter. Olga has stated that she would like to become a nurse or a doctor. I am an anesthetist. So, we knew that Olga is available for adoption and we also knew (before she did) that her host family was backing out. My wife and daughter and I talked on the 4 hour drive home and called the agency coordinator that evening to start the process. We have only seen Olga in photos and video, and have have only spoken with her by phone. So, in answer to your question, you don't normally choose a child this early in the process. Usually you get a referral, visit the orphanage, see the child, indicate agreement to the court, and wait for a court date. Instead, we feel that Olga was reserved for our family. I thought it was kind of a cool story.
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tuller
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Joined: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 234

PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You and your wife are certainly angels to your Olga Smile
Good Luck!

Tuller
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Patrick01
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Joined: 20 Dec 2004
Posts: 49
Location: Tennessee, USA

PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mountaingirl wrote:


The only hope we can have for the home, values, freedom, and everything that is truly good and right in this world, is in God.

.... This is my hope in Russia that individuals lives will be given freedom that one can only find in Christ. That is what is going to keep the home together.


Just curious but what are your beliefs concerning Christianity.
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