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Coke123 · Frequent Guest Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 30

Now we're contemplating on marrying in Toronto instead. We'll have her come to Toronto as a tourist, we'll get married here and then she'll return to Russia. Then I'll apply for her to immigrate. Is this plan feasible? Any experiences?

DeltaOneThree · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject:

froid · Frequent Guest Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 19

Hey Coke

I sent you a PM too. Her getting to Canada as a tourist might be VERY difficult. Seems that a single woman from Russia is turned down very often by Canadian officials when applying for a visa.

Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

Not a chance. I am inviting a friend who has a great job, owns her own flat, has travelled many countries and yet still there is a chance that she will not be successful in receiving a tourist visa.

Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

Froid, Russians do marry foreigners, the negative portion comes from the Golddiggers who are 21 years old marrying 46 year old men.
When you spend time with them as I have with a good friend, you truly know someone's character. This instant marriage thing does not make sense. This is what is bad.

froid · Frequent Guest Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 19

Hmmm...Paul, did I say anything about instant marriages and the stereotypes of Russians and Westerners?

I'm staying out of that discussion. Very Happy

Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

froid · Frequent Guest Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 19

That was someone else Paul. Smile

jo jo 7 · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject:

Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

Froid, I have a problem how our Canadian government allows dishonest people to stay like refugees who jump the queue and people like my friend, business from Belarus, and other good people who have a history on honouring the system are refused entry into Canada for a visit.
A friend of mine mother could not visit her grandson, because of this harsh laws. Even ask Dmitri who has travelled all throughout Europe, owns this successful website, and highly educated, but yet we restrict his entry to "our" great nation, but when it is come to other refugees, we seem to have an open door.
The Canadian system is predjudicial to people from Eastern Europe for immigration and visiting.

sunjayc · Just Starting Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

I'm a 23 year old American living in Switzerland and have been in a loving relationship with my 21 year old Russian girlfriend for 2 years now. I understand both sides of the argument, but think that if one person is really serious enough to get married to the other, there has to be some more semblance of trust that what either of you concede. The problem is when this relationship is broken down on either side. True, there are Russian women who leave their American men, just as there are American men who abuse their women. To give statistics about the greater or lesser frequency of either event seems to largely be missing the point. I fully agree that time and energy are needed to keep a relationship going, but also believe that with current technology meetings can be buttressed by frequent communication over the computer to keep the relationship going. I meet my gf maybe 3-4 times a year in various locations in Europe, but talk to her everyday via Skype. Ideally we'd never be apart, but the reality of the situation is such that technology has an important role to play in sustaining a long-distance relationship.

Overall I think its really foolish to judge or pass guilt on either group in any general terms. Lots of people will end up divorcing regardless of nationality, as is well-demonstrated. What is required is a certain level of trust and understanding beyond just the surface to truly justify a serious commitment like marriage. The problem arises I believe when people marry first and then ask questions later. To rush into something as important as this is both foolish and naive, but then again also understandable and tragic in some situations. Overall, the hostility demonstrated in this debate is indicative of its emotional weight, and it is the responsibility of everyone to ensure that such profound decisions are not treated in a light manner...

But then again who knows, maybe I'm just a naive kid after all...

Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

Sunjayc, ok you are two years difference and you have met frequently.

Ok try 25 girl and beautiful has a desire for gold and jewerly and hates computers, plus a history dating men for money and man who 45 years old, obese, and whose hobby is playing video games and he has a daughter almost her age. 20 year difference. Has met the girl twice and also is going to marry her. Despite she is blacklisted throughout the internet.

Do you think that is love?

How about 28lady and 48 year old man. He is also obese and if you want to hide something from him, just put it behind a bar of soap or bottle of shampoo. She stays in Russia just avoid him. But will ask for jackets, jewerly and trips. BTW he gave a marriage agency 10,000 $ to find this woman.

Do you think that is love?

Coke123 · Frequent Guest Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 30

Ouch...I'm really concerned now. We may have to go back to our original plans then Sad

froid: Thanks for your PM. I sent you a reply to your email.

Paul Holmes: What exactly do you have to do to invite someone to visit on a Tourist VISA? Which offices should I go to to make this invitation "official"?

Miami · WayToRussified Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 333

Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

Just send me your email.
But quickly, there is support needed which is your tax statements from CRA confirming that you are not an unemployed bum. A letter from your employer that you are still working and that you are not unemployed bum. A letter stating that you are willing to accept any financial responsible for her when she is in Canada.
She has to fill out a form.
She has to provide proof that she is going back to Russia and not just staying. So if she owns property, has travelled many countries and returned, has a good job and so on. I think at her age and location in Russia, I rather bet on the Maple Leafs to win the Stanley Cup.

Best bet I think there is a consulate in Vladivlastok now, marry her in that city. Bribe to reduce the days ZAGS.
There used to be a good forum in Russian called canada.ru. she can learn more info there also.