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mariaq
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 Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:27 pm Post subject: Russian men |
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| So much has been written about Russian women. So now please tell me about Russian men - the new generation (30's), educated city people. Are they macho, moody, drink-but-don't-get-drunk, trustworthy, etc? Please, Russian men, tell us about yourselves. What is the way to your heart? What is most important in a relationship? What do you want in your life, in the world? |
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she_is_in_wonderland
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Location: Moscow, Russia
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:37 pm Post subject: Russian men... |
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Hello, Mariaq! Unfortunatelly I can't share with you the first source information concerning russian men mentality due to the fact that I'm only a Russian GIRL but I can give you my personal view on the subject you are interested in. Most probably I'll give here a rather confined and stereotyped perception of russian men: I'll be talking about guys aged 20-27 living in Moscow. Still, I believe, it's better than nothing.
Today guys in Moscow are becoming more and more pampered with girls' attention and consider it is normal if girls run after them and take initiative to become acquainted. The used to be realtionships of winning one's lady-love almost no longer exist in the modern world of the capital city, which is rather sad... Guys become less romantic and consider sex to be the norm of the relationship with the girl that they may like more or less . This absolutely does not mean they may be deeply in LOVE (do men believe in it?) with their partner. Well, this state of things seems to satisfy most girls and, as to those unsatisfied, they continue to look for serious relationship with obligations and responsabilities and, if lucky, do certainly find such.
Despite all this would-to-say laziness of Russian guys, men in Russia are still expected to be courteous towards a woman: they would open the doors in front of her, give a place to her in transport (but not on the road when she is driving a car!  ) would give her flowers, sweets and toys, pay for her in a restaurant if they invite her out for a night. Men in Russia like and want to feel themselves stronger and being listened up to. That is why men play the leading role in conversations, in the situations when a final decision should be taken, etc.
To be continued....
If anybody is interested in this stuff 
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mariaq
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Yes, I am interested. What I mean is also, what is the difference in mentality between Russian men and e.g. men from Belarus or Ukraine who live in Moscow? What is the typical mentality of Russian men? I machoism a respected trait in modern Russian society? How do modern Russian men react to self-confident "liberated" women? Plus anything else you could add to this topic. And what's the reason for the men being pampered? Are the women pampered too?
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Muppet
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Sorry, I have a bad story to relate. I've been corresponding with a nice girl in St. Petersburg. 21, young baby, but getting divorced from inattentive husband and living at mothers home. Her mother is away this week, and the soon to be ex-husband has been round to the house abusing her and goodness knows what else. He blew up when I called (I only met her several months after they separated), and when I called today she was preparing to move to her friends home for safety. I still don't know what he did, she was too upset to say.
I know this sounds like a stereotype, but it's true. Since corresponding I've learn't a lot about Russian society, and men in particular. They seem to be a spoilt, smug and misogynistic lot unfortunately. We're no saints in the west either, but at least we try to lock them up for spousal abuse. 
I guess in the short term they'll seem like prince charming, but that soon changes according to my sources. 
Hope there's some decent ones, but right now I'm concerned for my friend.  |
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ram
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| Muppet wrote: | They seem to be a spoilt, smug and misogynistic lot unfortunately. We're no saints in the west either, but at least we try to lock them up for spousal abuse.
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Oh, don't beat yourself up so hard.  Western men are so soft and nice, almost feminine. Western women are, on the other hand, violent, spoiled manhating feminazis.  We need to start locking up all the out of control females, or we will soon face a crisis of total extinction. No wonder Western men are seeking women outside of their own culture. |
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Nell
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:48 am Post subject: Russian men |
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I think you find all types all over the world. I've lived in several countries extensively, besides my own, and traveled to many more. Of course, this is just my observation.
I have a Russian man of my very own, and have dated others in the past. Every one of them was wonderful. Moody, yeah, but the upside is SO amazing, I can't imagine having any other sort of man in my life. The ones I encountered, to a man, including the one I live with, have been courtly, romantic, extremely thoughtful, kind, love kids, remember every special occasion, strong work ethic and help around the house and also cook like a chef.
However, just like in all countries, there are many who are "redneck", heavy-drinker, neglectful types. And, just like anywhere else, if you know how to pick them (men or women) I truly believe you can find what you're looking for in any country. Naturally, the more you have to offer, the wider selection of potential significant others you will be able to find.
Best wishes from the Land of Oz,
Nell |
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Filimon
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| Muppet wrote: | Sorry, I have a bad story to relate. I've been corresponding with a nice girl in St. Petersburg. 21, young baby, but getting divorced from inattentive husband and living at mothers home. Her mother is away this week, and the soon to be ex-husband has been round to the house abusing her and goodness knows what else. He blew up when I called (I only met her several months after they separated), and when I called today she was preparing to move to her friends home for safety. I still don't know what he did, she was too upset to say.
I know this sounds like a stereotype, but it's true. Since corresponding I've learn't a lot about Russian society, and men in particular. They seem to be a spoilt, smug and misogynistic lot unfortunately. We're no saints in the west either, but at least we try to lock them up for spousal abuse.
I guess in the short term they'll seem like prince charming, but that soon changes according to my sources.
Hope there's some decent ones, but right now I'm concerned for my friend. |
Yeah, we also have horns, hooves and go out at night sucking blood of lost travellers!
Why didn't you call the police? |
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Dr-Fauste
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Then you must be the Anti Christ !!!
No ,Filimon is correct. One smuck does not make a whole nation, plus you are probably not hearing the whole story either. The Russian I have met in Canada are awesome(except for one) and hard working individuals. Russians are a people, not a breed. |
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Muppet
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Yeah, we also have horns, hooves and go out at night sucking blood of lost travellers!
Why didn't you call the police? |
Because I already knew that was a waste of time. I contacted the St P womens refuge and got details from them, and then found a Russian woman locally who was able to call without arousing suspicion and pass these details on. The situation was resolved after a couple of days, although he did return and cause more trouble later. Since then I've visited and talked to her friends and family, including acquaintances of the ex-husband, and still get a similar picture.
Anyway, I'm back to see her and friends for New Year, so I'll pass on your inspired advice Fillimon  |
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Anna
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Location: St. Petersburg, Russia
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| I believe it was just one unlucky case - such things happen not only in Russia. Besides, a man usually treats a woman the way she wants and expects... |
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Dr-Fauste
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| Quote: | | I believe it was just one unlucky case - such things happen not only in Russia. . |
It is not cultural thing, but individual thing.
| Quote: | | Besides, a man usually treats a woman the way she wants and expects.. |
Yes, I see this man in the streets begging for money, becuase he is so poor!!!LOL
Woman's philosophy. What is mine is mine and what is his is ours.  |
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Anna
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The point is that the woman, who doesn't really want to be beaten will never stay with the man who beats her, don't you think?  |
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Patrick01
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Anna,
Off topic but you have a nice web site. Wish I was going to St Petersburg. |
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