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MelissaCato
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Joined: 27 Dec 2006
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| Arseniy wrote: | | OMG, Xela is amazing. I think he is the fanat of Jhon Makkein. Talking bout Russia, when everything that you know bout it you have read from west antirussian sites, is very clever. Talking bout great leader Stalin, and what do you know bout Stalin? And Do you know that a lot of Ossetins are russian citizens? Do you know that Russia have peacemakers in South Ossetia and Georgians attacked them against all world agreements? You know nothing bout my country but you think that world always need to have a big enemy and this enemy is Russia. Its real bullshit. |
I happen to agree. Although I do believe there's an enemy. Putin is a wise man, he knows too. Kudo's. (and he's soooo sexy, darn it)
I made another vid .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSr8kUpEbh0
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mister_wizzz
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| MelissaCato wrote: | | Arseniy wrote: | | OMG, Xela is amazing. I think he is the fanat of Jhon Makkein. Talking bout Russia, when everything that you know bout it you have read from west antirussian sites, is very clever. Talking bout great leader Stalin, and what do you know bout Stalin? And Do you know that a lot of Ossetins are russian citizens? Do you know that Russia have peacemakers in South Ossetia and Georgians attacked them against all world agreements? You know nothing bout my country but you think that world always need to have a big enemy and this enemy is Russia. Its real bullshit. |
I happen to agree. Although I do believe there's an enemy. Putin is a wise man, he knows too. Kudo's. (and he's soooo sexy, darn it)
I made another vid .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSr8kUpEbh0
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We already know that, no need to repeat it in each post you write.
By the way, you have very strange taste in matter of men... 
An Ukrainian girl told me : "there is no ugly girls, only bad vodka". I guess this expression can be applied to women, it seems you drink good vodka... |
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Paul Holmes
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Arseniy wrote: | | OMG, Xela is amazing. I think he is the fanat of Jhon Makkein. Talking bout Russia, when everything that you know bout it you have read from west antirussian sites, is very clever. Talking bout great leader Stalin, and what do you know bout Stalin? And Do you know that a lot of Ossetins are russian citizens? Do you know that Russia have peacemakers in South Ossetia and Georgians attacked them against all world agreements? You know nothing bout my country but you think that world always need to have a big enemy and this enemy is Russia. Its real bullshit. |
Yes, amazing that you gave citizenship to people that WERE NOT born in Russia, but Georgia or Ossetia. How would you like it if Germany gave citizenship to the people of Kalingrad? Russia would have a fit. Or the fact that Russians oligrach are buying land in the region illegally. Or the fact the peacekeepers are allowing the destruction of Georgian villages in Ossetia. Some peacekeepers. Maybe your english is bad, but the word peacekeeper means to keep peace, not to allow innocent Georgian villages who before the attack were being uprooted and looted. Georgians responded to protect THEIR citizens and THEIR land. South Ossetia is NOT considered a part of Russia in the world's eyes.
It is interesting that the Georgians and Ossetians lived in peace until the Russians came by in 1920s. Some peacekeepers that you are. Only thing Russians can comment here is that GWB is worse.
What happened to half the population of Chechnya?
Were they peacekeepers also? |
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Arseniy
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Joined: 22 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | | Arseniy wrote: | | OMG, Xela is amazing. I think he is the fanat of Jhon Makkein. Talking bout Russia, when everything that you know bout it you have read from west antirussian sites, is very clever. Talking bout great leader Stalin, and what do you know bout Stalin? And Do you know that a lot of Ossetins are russian citizens? Do you know that Russia have peacemakers in South Ossetia and Georgians attacked them against all world agreements? You know nothing bout my country but you think that world always need to have a big enemy and this enemy is Russia. Its real bullshit. |
Yes, amazing that you gave citizenship to people that WERE NOT born in Russia, but Georgia or Ossetia. How would you like it if Germany gave citizenship to the people of Kalingrad? Russia would have a fit. Or the fact that Russians oligrach are buying land in the region illegally. Or the fact the peacekeepers are allowing the destruction of Georgian villages in Ossetia. Some peacekeepers. Maybe your english is bad, but the word peacekeeper means to keep peace, not to allow innocent Georgian villages who before the attack were being uprooted and looted. Georgians responded to protect THEIR citizens and THEIR land. South Ossetia is NOT considered a part of Russia in the world's eyes.
It is interesting that the Georgians and Ossetians lived in peace until the Russians came by in 1920s. Some peacekeepers that you are. Only thing Russians can comment here is that GWB is worse.
What happened to half the population of Chechnya?
Were they peacekeepers also? |
OMG, one more specialist. Man, pliz, when you talk bout something, first learn anything about it.
Yes my english is bad but i didnt find another word for peacekeeper in vocabularys.
I'll give you historical fact. We gave citizenship to people who borned in Georgia when Georgia was part of USSR. When USSR breakdowned people from Ossetia could choose their citizenship - russian or georgian. And their kids could now choose who they want to be. And by the way most of them choose russian coz they dont want to be georgian. You know why? Coz of genocide from georgians. Genocide - one of the worstes felonys in the world. Did you see video news from Tshinvali - the capital of South Ossetia? Georgies burned it all. Coz they wanna live there, in clean place and first they need to remove all ossetins from there.
I dont think that our oligrachs are buying land there, they dont need it, they buy land in Europe. But there are our people and we cant live em alone without protect. Try to understand, we dont attack anyone, only defend.
And i cant understand when west talks that South Ossetia is part of Georgia, its their own deal, Russia dont have any right to do something there, but what's with Kosovo? You let Kosovo be independent, so you should agreed that Ossetia must be independent while 95% of its citizens want so.
And i didnt here that innocent georgian villages were attacked, only military bases, military cutters, planes and so. Where did you see it? Fox news? And did you see video where georgian armoured troop-carrier catched a simple inhabitant and shooted him? Only because he was ossetin. Did you here that georgians flinged grenades into cellars with dozens of children and women? Ossetin children and women. You TV doesnt show it. In one west show they made advertisement pause when ossetin women began talk bout that hell.
And about Chechnya. Do you know something about it, exept that "russians military destroy half the popualation there"? Do you know how this war was gone? Do you know what separitists-killers did with peaceful citizens, how much houses they blowned up, what did they do in BESLAN? And do you know that now it is peaceful region coz our militaries destroyed all killers, killers but not inhabitants.
You like to talk bout russian problems but dont know anything bout it. |
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Paul Holmes
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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You said one thing correct. You don't think
Oligrachs are buying the land. Who really cares about of villagers as long as the mayor Moscow has a nice property near Sochi. I am sure he made lots of money seizing property in Moscow to build new Condominiums for the rich.
You attack anyone. Tell that to the Afghans, Chechen, Czech, Lithunanias, Estonians and so on. The bullets stuck in government building in Prague from 1968 were just peacekeeping bullets.
Making up bombs that looked like toys which blew up Children in Afghanistan. They were peacekeeping toys.
Pushing Inguish out of their land then giving to Ossetia, that was peacekeeping also.
1/2 population of Chechya gone. The 1/2 were all killers.
I guess when you kill them, they are quite peaceful. I guess you are correct the Russian soldiers are peacekeepers.
Keeping read the news from Gazprom. |
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Xela
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Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 781
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Ender,
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Are you idiot or what? Your source of information is Internet and TV (controlled by anti-Russian entities, it was very well indicated by recent events - fake photos, stolen sequences from russian TV, direct lie - they can't say difference between Russian and Georgian tanks, twisted words). Of course over all sources of information you selected most radical and openly anti-Russian. Probably you went few times to Russia. I live in this country for 30 years. I have acquaintances between these people. I don't need to understand your shitty theories or what-you-have-read-on-anti-russian-sites. I simply live near them and see them. It is no point to talk with you as your head filled with anti-Russian bullshit. Bye, moron. |
You think Russia is so great and so grand and so right in everything, why don't you go to Georgia yourself? Of course, I forgot. You never saw any battles which didn't involve your armchair, and you are part of the world's biggest propaganda train which is the news service in Russia.
I like the way this bothers you.
Keep studying Wikipedia, you racist s**t stain.
Arseniy,
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OMG, Xela is amazing. I think he is the fanat of Jhon Makkein. Talking bout Russia, when everything that you know bout it you have read from west antirussian sites, is very clever. Talking bout great leader Stalin, and what do you know bout Stalin? And Do you know that a lot of Ossetins are russian citizens? Do you know that Russia have peacemakers in South Ossetia and Georgians attacked them against all world agreements? You know nothing bout my country but you think that world always need to have a big enemy and this enemy is Russia. Its real bullshit. |
Your interpretation of events is laughable. In any event you are mistaken.
I only have a serious problem with people from countries which bully smaller countries and treat Muslims and Jews and in the case of Georgia Christians like second rate-citizens and make them fear for their own lives.
Ender is one of those people. I have numerous PM's in Russian from him which go into racist detail and talk of how ugly Caucasian women are, when in fact they are beautiful.
You want to defend that? Go ahead. |
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gomer
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Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| A main complaint is the Russian Federation is the only country to recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Would Russia get countries that it has current or previous influence with to give recognition? Belarus, the 'stans in Central Asia, North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Libya, Syria and Iran are countries that have had relations of some sort with Russia in the past. China possibly, but the Tibetans want independence also. |
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Ender
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Location: Urals
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| gomer wrote: | | A main complaint is the Russian Federation is the only country to recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Would Russia get countries that it has current or previous influence with to give recognition? Belarus, the 'stans in Central Asia, North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Libya, Syria and Iran are countries that have had relations of some sort with Russia in the past. China possibly, but the Tibetans want independence also. |
I think it is enough for Russia. Nobody have false expectations. Nobody expect that countries which currently are barking at Russia recognize A and S.O. It is interesting also that Ukrainian prime minister Yulia Timoshenko didn't joined to this band of NATO sycophants. Maybe she wants to stay clear? After all she one of real candidates to the presidents chair.
I thnik the main problem is that international law applies to countries inversely proportionally to their power. Latest example - U.S. killed 90 civilians in Afghanistan by single strike. This is amount of deaths comparable to officially declared amount of Georgian losses (less than 200). Nobody complains. Nobody threatens U.S. to throw them out of WTO or from G8. The main idea that law doesn't work neither for U.S nor for Russia nor for any other country which have enough power to do something. Israel for example, when we see another civilian car destroyed by Israel forces. Of course it is claimed that there were terrorists inside it.
It is sad but each country have only three friends - its army, its navy and its airforce. When they are strong its borders, sovereignty and integrity are respected, when they aren't it is matter of time...
BTW, nobody sent to me links to these Japanese satellite photos. Anyone! Please! |
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Ender
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | | 1/2 population of Chechya gone. The 1/2 were all killers. I guess when you kill them, they are quite peaceful. I guess you are correct the Russian soldiers are peacekeepers. Keeping read the news from Gazprom. |
Half of the population will be ~500 thousands of people. Pre war there were ~1170 thousands of people in Chechnya including ~270 thousands of Russians (~23%). This percentage (about 25% in average) was stable after WWII until USSR dissolution. Currently census shows about 1.2 mln of people in Chechnya with less than 4% of Russians. -225 thousands of Russians. Guess why? Fled or killed. Next time you'll feell sorry for Chechens recall this numbers. This is called genocide. |
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Xela
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Stop trying to make out Chechens committed genocide when we all know the real genocide was committed by certain racist Russians such as yourself, Ender.
Let's talk about treatment of Chechens and other Caucasians inside Russia, before we even begin discussing Russia in the same context as any other civilised country. |
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Ender
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Xela wrote: | | Stop trying to make out Chechens committed genocide when we all know the real genocide was committed by certain racist Russians such as yourself, Ender. Let's talk about treatment of Chechens and other Caucasians inside Russia, before we even begin discussing Russia in the same context as any other civilised country. |
Obviously media is actively shitting into your brain. Sitting on another side of world you think that you knew more than person who personally knew some participants of events we talking about. I won't discuss with you about anything because you are unable to perceive and analyze information. Connection closed. |
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Ender
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| mister_wizzz wrote: | | By the way, you have very strange taste in matter of men... An Ukrainian girl told me : "there is no ugly girls, only bad vodka". I guess this expression can be applied to women, it seems you drink good vodka... |
Original: "There is no ugly girls, there is not enough vodka".
There is addition to this expression.
Looking on a really ugly girl: "I will not be able to drink so much".
And the final one: "Vodka without beer means the money thrown on the wind". |
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mister_wizzz
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Ender wrote: |
Original: "There is no ugly girls, there is not enough vodka".
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The girl I was talking about translated from Russian into French, may be a bad translation ? Anyway I understood the meaning, we also have the same kind of expression in France but not involving only Vodka but alcohol in general.
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There is addition to this expression.
Looking on a really ugly girl: "I will not be able to drink so much".
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LOOOL
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And the final one: "Vodka without beer means the money thrown on the wind". |
I knew this one, but you cannot understand it until you try mixing beer and vodka yourself |
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Xela
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ender,
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Obviously media took your brain clean away, so don't close connection just yet, you Ruski racist, let me explain a couple of things to you..
You know nothing about Chechnya and your little rapist army friends were lying to you when they told you those stories.
I don't need to analyse anything with you, but I do feel obliged to tell you that you're an idiot.
That, and the fact that I think it's about time you got up out of that armchair and brushed your teeth. |
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Ender
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| mister_wizzz wrote: |
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And the final one: "Vodka without beer means the money thrown on the wind". |
I knew this one, but you cannot understand it until you try mixing beer and vodka yourself |
There is another entertainment to drink vodka by thimble. Make a bet with someone to drink more than 30 thimbles of vodka and look what will happens.  |
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