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Ender · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:50 am Post subject:

Arina8, please relax and don't waste your time. For some reason Xela is over sensitive about caucasian women, obsessed with Chechnya and perceive any negative description of nation as racism (I said that Georgian women become unattractive when they grow-up and I'm racist now Laughing

). Additionally he is too focused on rape. He failed to understand statistics. He failed to face historical facts. He failed to provide any evidence of his words, neither satellite images, nor any map analyzis. Everything he can is to write: "tell that to Chechen children/women/people killed/raped/screwed" and "russians are agressors and rapists". He provided only information from anti-russian internet sites (I can invent such texts one a week) as ultimate truth. He offended my country and my armchair. My country is glorious and my armchair is perfect white leather VIP styled armchair (USD $821). Dancing

From my point of view he is pure Russian hater and not very mentally healthy person. :-&

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL272497420080902
As expected. It looks like they are desperately seeking a way to please their overseas masters but somehow failed to invent something filthy for Russia and safe for them simultaneously.

Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

Yes, but two wrongs do not make a right.

I watched a good documentary on Chechya. They want to have their own country. I say let have their own cultural and do as they want as if it is the law. But from the great mountain called the Kremlin, government has pushed people the wrong way to integrated them.
Same can be said Saami people in the north. They were pushed to be integrated. Why? Who cares? If they want to live the traditional life eating reindeer meat and cooking it with reindeer poop, then it is their life.

What Russia did to Chechya was wrong, but tthe Chechen also did many things to themselves. When they got independence, they had zero economy. So what did they do for money? Drug smuggling, kidnapping and arm dealing. What Ossetia do when it escaped from Georgia? The same thing.
Great, you have brand country with no industry, no money, lots of corruption, and some nationalistic/fundamentalist idiot that does not have the brains to drive a car let alone to lead the country. So what does he after getting a brand new country? He attacks the old country, because he is too stupid to think of anything else to do.

A smart man would fight to get recognition for their language, cultural, money to build their economy and so on.
But Russian government is always thick headed and place some corrupt official who makes things worse.

Ender · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:50 am Post subject:

Xela · VIP Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 781 Location: Shanghai

Paul,

Ender · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:48 am Post subject:

Xela, you haven't asked my permission for publication of my letters. This is not courtesy. However I will not post your letters anyway as revenge. Anyway they are stupid and meaningless. To those who can't read Russian I will translate common meaning:

1. Georgians - smart and not warlike (недолго продолжался, бой бежали робкие грузины (с) Lermontov). Their women aren't attractive, especially when they are mature and when they are in war-zone. Quickly fluorish, but quickly fade. I guess it is common characteristic for many southern nations.
2. Chechens - smarter than Georgians and warlike.

I'm racist. Very Happy

Of course there is possibility that Xela understands only 50% of what I'm writing. He seems understand Russian, but it looks like he unable to write Russian.

Xela · VIP Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 781 Location: Shanghai

Ender,

The reason you won't publish my letters is because I did not offend anyone, and it would only show you to be the racist bigot that you really are.

Allow me to translate what you wrote to me exactly, for those who cannot read Russian:

Ender · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject:

Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

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Paul Holmes · Lounge Wizard Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1071

But you dehumanize the "opposing" people as a stereotype or class. It is not ok to murder or rape a person who is person, but to someone who an enemy like Georgian, Iraqi, or even a villager, then in someone mind it is ok, because they are the enemies. They respond the same way. Government and Military now teach to hate and it is okay to hate them, because they hate you. Soldiers go on the field think they are superior, because they are Russian, Georgian or an American.

Read Lord of the Flies or Heart of Darkness
It is difficult to civilized when you are in uncivilized place.

It is interesting that you think that Russia has different reputation than America and America believes the same. But when I was in Turkey, I was near a Russian dominate resort. I went to the local bazaar. When they found that I was not Russian, the Turkish men could not shut up on how much they hated Russians, but they enjoyed only Russian money and women for pleasure. That is why it is so easy for them to force them in prostitution, because in their eyes, you are just an object and they really dislike you. In Ukraine, when they realize that I am not American, they would not say less than kind words about the USA.

I was watching the Republican convention last night. I must admit that I like John McCain before he won the nomination, but I nearly wanted to vomit from all the nationalism spoken at this convention. They spoke like if you are not American, then you are nothing. The democratic convention was not much different. USA was built on ingenuity, hard work and determination. Now it has so many laws and lawsuits, most people feel like they have no control.

I must say that I found it the same way in Russia. It is not a country that was built on the fairy tales of the past, but now it is built on greed, violence, and nationalism. Has Russia lost its soul?

Do I want to live in a country that works itself in such nationalistic state that it is ok to invade, rape, steal, and murder, because I am better than them, because I was born in certain country or my passport has a certain name on it. According to Putin and Bush, yes.

Words with same meaning
Watch George Carlin discussion.
Shell shocked
Battle Fatigue
War Weary

Warrior
Soldiers
Armed Personnel
Peace Keeper

The words are for the samething. But they are nicer sounding now.

Arina8 · Frequent Guest Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Posts: 27

Ender · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject:

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