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besarab
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 Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: about bulgarians in russia |
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| hi and happy new year everione.i am a bulgarian friend of russia ,veri interested to know what is the opinion of the russian people about role of the bulgarians[volga bulgaria and old great bulgaria] in the medieval russian history-what is yor point of view... and what about the modern republik of tatarstan where big percent of the people claim bulgarians . thank you |
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besarab
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Freeman
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:44 pm Post subject: They lurve Bulgaraians |
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Well, the only knowledge I have of how Russians view Bulgarians is the fact that my Russian girlfriend has an ex boyfriend from Bulgaria...........
So she must have liked him for a bit....
But apparently he went crazy....
So if you're a sane Bulgarian, you probably don't have anything to worry about other than having to fight off fit Russian girls with a shitty stick.
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Freeman
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject: Actually........... |
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Didn't read your message properly, sorry.......
Haven't got a scooby doo about the opinions on Medieval Bulgarians.....
Maybe they were just as lucky with Russian wenches  |
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Camrade
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2besarab
Unfortunately bulgarians and BULGARS in Tatarstan are two different peoples.
Bulgars were union of tribes which formed Volzhskaya Bulgaria which then was occupied and destroyed by mongols (now population of Tatarstan is mostly descendants of mongol-tatars).
Bulgarians is a slav tribe with significant turk influence but in russian history there wasn't any bulgarian influence (I mean ancient history). But certainly russians, bulgarians and other slav tribes were together in 5-6 century A.D. |
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besarab
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| freeman i am sorry about this.i hoop u dont blame all bulgarians -we are not oppressors.the fact is that many bulgarians have[or had in the past] russian girl friends and i think the russian girls are nicest in the world.congratulations -u have something realy valuable.2comrad-comrad u r not right but it is your point ,it's ok |
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Camrade
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2besarab
If I am not mistaken it's a point of view of russian historical science
But still I'll have a look in my books, maybe I forgot some details. |
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besarab
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| comrad[or tavarish] with my respect to u my point is that the russian science is in big mistake[ha but it is an intentional mistake] .of course the official science allways is in favor of the politics. the truth is another thing.pozdravliau |
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2besarab
Maybe i am not right cause i am not sure that bulgars are not bulgarians... I am convinced in 90%
I'll ask my friend who is a history teacher and graduated from Spb state University... he should know |
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besarab
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| comrad my friend[may i call u friend]thank you for your interest and for repliyng my question . people who created volga Bulgaria and danubian Bulgaria[modern republik of bulgaria] are one nation. even theyr first rulers-Batbaian and Asparuh are brothers. bulgarians populated also northern Kavkaz,Onglus[now days south Ukrain and Besarabia in Moldova],Panonia even northern Italy.....http://ziezi.tripod.com/amico/amico.htm... i am very interested what will your friend [the proffesor] say.thank u again greetings |
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Freeman
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Ah, when I said the only thing a Bulgarian would have to worry about was beating Russian girls off with a shitty stick, I didn't mean it in a bad way, sorry.
It's an English phrase, basically meaning that there are so many girls throwing themselves at you (because they like you), that you have to physically fight them off..........
Hopefully not LITERALLY using a shitty stick, as that would cause a bit of a mess......
But, it raises a good point, sometimes I speak to my girlfriend and she doesn't know what I'm talking about when I use a lot of Liverpudlian phrases, that just get lost in translation. |
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besarab
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| yeaaaa what a mess -now i can relax- long live bulgaro-english-russian friendship.my regards to your girl friend.u know i also had russian girl friend once and i think these girls are very sensitive and very close to the nature and to real values in the life in distinction of many others-some times they look a little naive and so trustful, but i think it is good ,it makes them more attractive.well-slavic beauty.so do u like footbal,english football is popular in bulgaria-one of the new bulgarian football stars[martin petrov] probable will play in liverpool since this summer.greetings |
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