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intCom
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Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Location: Germany
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 Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: Negotiating with Russians |
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Hello everyone,
I need your help. I have to prepare a small presantation about Russians and negotiating with Russians.
Wat do you think, what are the most important points for successful communication between russians and foreigners? I think negotiations are related not only to business matters, but we need to negotiate also in every day situations with our relatives, friends, colleagues... What should we keep in mind when we are communicating with Russians. F.e. I have read, time in Russia has another meaning as f.e. in germany or in the USA. For Americans and I think European too, time is money. And what is about Russians? Has their attitude to time changed? Or I've read a lot that Russians are very unfriendly to strangers... Is it true, what do you think?
I'm looking forward to your opinion! Thank you very much in advance!
best wishes
Lena |
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TimMedellin
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Joined: 13 Jul 2009
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Location: USA/Colombia
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I think it is important to learn some Russian. Also to be able to drink(vodka) and eat with them. At least do you best in that.
Some people would prefer to have good time first during negotiations, rather than actually doing something business related. But it really depends on the people you are dealing with. For some time is money now too.
Also do not look "cheap". They already may assume you are "cheap" They have some stereotypes, not without merit. In Russia it is common for a person to spend his last $100 for some fancy stuff, restaurant or casino. While in USA or Europe one who has much more money might not never do that. |
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Ender
WayToRussified
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 498
Location: Urals
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: Re: Negotiating with Russians |
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| intCom wrote: | | Wat do you think, what are the most important points for successful communication between russians and foreigners? |
I think be friendly, be constructive, be ready to discuss something not related to business, do not tell silly jokes (they could be specific for your context/culture so nobody will understand you).
| intCom wrote: | | I think negotiations are related not only to business matters, but we need to negotiate also in every day situations with our relatives, friends, colleagues... What should we keep in mind when we are communicating with Russians. |
Remember - no matter how badly russian blames his own country do not support him because Mother Russia is sacred and only Russians have right to criticize it inherently. 
| intCom wrote: | | F.e. I have read, time in Russia has another meaning as f.e. in germany or in the USA. For Americans and I think European too, time is money. And what is about Russians? |
It depends on a person who you meet with. Generally it is considered that if a meeting is sheduled at a certain hour (e.g. 1:00, 2:00, 3:00 etc) then 10..15 minute variation is acceptable. If a meeting is sheduled at an other time (e.g 1:05, 2:30, 3:50, etc) then 5 minute variation is acceptable.
| intCom wrote: | | Has their attitude to time changed? |
I don't know what was previous attitude.
| intCom wrote: | | Or I've read a lot that Russians are very unfriendly to strangers... Is it true, what do you think? |
No. It is not true. However they (we) don't smile to each stranger. |
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AlexSN
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Location: Kolomna, close by Moscow
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Fîr russian money - is not always most important in a life, unlike foregn - thay God- is MONEY (don't want offend somebody - not everybody) . Usual nature of russian more spiritual, may be little lazy (in "mining" of money). Man, who interest - only money (independent of race or nationality) for russian - unpleasant. It is big part of population of Russia (especial old people). Younger people - more greedy for money (again - not everybody, depends of breeding). IMHO
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Daria
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| AlexSN, don't underestimate yourself.... |
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Ender
WayToRussified
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Location: Urals
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I work remotely in an australian company which buys various software components quite often. Some of our vendors are russian companies. To tell the truth they are most problematic of all vendors. Sure, they provide us with technologically and scientifically superior software but their behaviour... er-r-r. They declare that they have flexible licensing policies and in the same time they demonstrate great reluctance to be flexible and be ready to discuss various issues. They are ready to start a bitter quarrel even if they only suspect that their rights are infringed instead of problem discussion and peaceful resolution. They demonstrate rudeness and non obligatory behavior quite often.
Every time we encounter such a behavior I feel shame for my nation.
I learnt from my australian colleagues and from my boss that keeping promises is very important in a business. Reliability is very important also. If you give a word don't break it. Don't do things that might be harmful for business. Unfortunately our (Russian) businessmen don't demonstrate such an attitude. |
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jo-jo-7
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| Ender wrote: | I work remotely in an australian company which buys various software components quite often. Some of our vendors are russian companies. To tell the truth they are most problematic of all vendors. Sure, they provide us with technologically and scientifically superior software but their behaviour... er-r-r. They declare that they have flexible licensing policies and in the same time they demonstrate great reluctance to be flexible and be ready to discuss various issues. They are ready to start a bitter quarrel even if they only suspect that their rights are infringed instead of problem discussion and peaceful resolution. They demonstrate rudeness and non obligatory behavior quite often.
Every time we encounter such a behavior I feel shame for my nation.
I learnt from my australian colleagues and from my boss that keeping promises is very important in a business. Reliability is very important also. If you give a word don't break it. Don't do things that might be harmful for business. Unfortunately our (Russian) businessmen don't demonstrate such an attitude. |
Ashamed? Talk about shame, I think it is everywhere these days, just pray some strong person is going to get in there and think about the people for once and not the pocket. It might be a long time Ender. I have never seen a business make it like this. Keeping a word in business is important. I think that this type of unreliability has reached just about every business in the world, not just Russia. |
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coolfrenz28
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well i think...Russian lives like a king... they are really great.. i love variety of Vodka of russians... it is simply amazing.. .i know it would be great to hear that they spend some money on cigar and casino...
It looks classy... it is important you to know... Russian prefer elegance in every styles...
I love Devgon.... |
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