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Moving to Moscow.

 
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Yaakov
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Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Posts: 4
Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Moving to Moscow. Reply with quote

Well where to start, I'm Russian but born in Toronto, Canada. I recently looked at my pictures and videos from the last time I went to Moscow and I'm really starting to miss it, the food, the architecture and my family who treated me so well despite never seeing me before.

I recently decided that I want to go to live there for a few years but I don't know where to start and the things I need to accomplish

well I'm 17 and in my last year of high school so you could say I have lots of time. I'm going to college next year for computer systems technology/IT, would i have a future in Moscow with this field? if so how well would i be living?

When I arrive I would be able to stay with my family until I was ready to leave and they could help me get started.

So if someone can sorta give me a small checklist of what I have to do or if I'm out of my mind please tell me so, so i don't end up wasting my time.

Thanks (PS: I know Russian already but some reinforcement wouldn't help)
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overseas_expat
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Joined: 11 Jan 2005
Posts: 741
Location: Moscow

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to be careful about moving to Russia, as Russian born you could very well be eligible for the Russian army draft.

The Russian army is to be avoided at all costs.
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Yaakov
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Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

overseas_expat wrote:
You might want to be careful about moving to Russia, as Russian born you could very well be eligible for the Russian army draft.

The Russian army is to be avoided at all costs.


It's not a problem, I was born in Canada and have no Russian citizenship.
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overseas_expat
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes correct, my bad, I misread the first sentence of your post. No Russian army for you.

So that brings me to the next question, how do you intend to "go there to live for a few years"? If you are Canadian citizen and not Russian, living in Moscow for more than 90 days is going to be a problem. The same problem all non-Russians have when trying to live in Russia.

I would guess that your best bet would be to apply for university in Russia. You have the advantage of already being a Russian speaker, and Russia has been making attempts to recruit its own re-pats. And student visas are usually fairly easy to get with school sponsorship (much easier than work visas or business visas) and have the singular advantage of being renewable from within the country.

Look into it.
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Yaakov
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Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

overseas_expat wrote:
Yes correct, my bad, I misread the first sentence of your post. No Russian army for you.

So that brings me to the next question, how do you intend to "go there to live for a few years"? If you are Canadian citizen and not Russian, living in Moscow for more than 90 days is going to be a problem. The same problem all non-Russians have when trying to live in Russia.

I would guess that your best bet would be to apply for university in Russia. You have the advantage of already being a Russian speaker, and Russia has been making attempts to recruit its own re-pats. And student visas are usually fairly easy to get with school sponsorship (much easier than work visas or business visas) and have the singular advantage of being renewable from within the country.

Look into it.


I certainly will...thank you very much for the help.
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vox16
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Joined: 14 Apr 2010
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving to Moscow. Reply with quote

About "how well" part (as of now - one can't predict for 5 years ahead in Russia) - open hh.ru, select IT, entry level/no experience - some 300 position with some 20000-25000 salary range. However such positions are mostly for 2nd-3rd year students, recent graduates are supposed to have some experience (as interns or part time), but that doesn't boost the salary past 50000 mark. IT positions where having native English and fluent Russian is a key point are, afaik, not posted on such sites and it's hard to say what are they like, but they exist. They imply more distance from the technical side and being closer to the business side, [english-speaking] customers and such. The whole other question is where to find Russia-based company with English-speaking customers/bosses/etc ( outsourcing? whatever...). Конкурировать в "работать за жрат" с местными студентами с готовым жильем смысла нет. And don't confuse tourism with immigration.
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Yaakov
Just Starting


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: Moving to Moscow. Reply with quote

vox16 wrote:
And don't confuse tourism with immigration..


Well yes you're right but I wasn't exactly a tourist, I spent a month there doing whatever my family was doing. Grocery shopping, shopping for clothes, going on the metro, going out to dinner and I saw a few tourist attractions like the red square and the kremlin.

But I have a pretty good idea of how life over there is lived from research and experience.
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