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Randy · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: Schools Russia/US

I was fortunate to of had the experience of teaching for one semester in a Russian school for the ages of 12 to 14 years old. It gave me the chance to associate with some of the Russian teachers, and have an exchange of idea's, and differences of our cultures. I found that the cirriculum is not that much different except that the Russians begin with the sciences, and math a little earlier, and that more culture such as the Arts are taught more than in the US. One change I saw in the Russian schools is that more students were choosing English as a second language, instead of German etc. Another difference is that the Russian children go to school for ten years, after that they have a choice of going to a technical school or just finish their education, and go to work. If they choose to go to technical school then graduate, then they go to a university. This is my understanding from what was explained to me from older students as well as some teachers. But then I have been guilty of understanding correctly in the past. One thing I do know is that no Russian degree is excepted in the US unless the Russian person receives extensive testing and further education here depending on the job they apply for. In my travels, I have heard that our schools are less than adequate from other nationalities, but then I wonder why so many foreign students are applying to our schools rather than the other way around. I agree that there are many changes that can be made in a school systems here, and that they are not perfect, but at least we do have a system that allows changes more easily than other countries. Blaked .... you have no idea what you are talking about. Comrade you have some good points in my opinion, but sort of off on some things. Since I don't have time to elaborate I can't write more now. Please let me know if I have understood your system wrong. I would help me more than you know......

AliceFromMoscow · WayToRussified Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 411

When people finish 9th grade they can choose if they want to go to technical school, or continue to study and finish 11 grades. Technical schools last 3 years, when a person finishes such school he has specialized secondary education. If people decide to stay at school to go to 10th and 11th grades, then when they finish 11th grade they can go to a university. University usually lasts 5 years, after finishing a university you get higher education diploma. After these 5 years people decide whether they want to leave and begin to work, or if they want to continue in post-graduate 2 years, and after that higher and higher, etc, most people leave universities after standard 5 years course though.

Dr Fauste · Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654

It was told to me during the USSR times that so many people were educated in Engineering that there was not enough Engineering jobs in the USSR. Thus Engineers had to work in other unrelated fields. The joke was in Canada, if you met a Russian, you say "I bet you are an Engineer" and you were almost always correct.

Anathema · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject:

In the US, especially in high school, sports are a big deal. Most schools would cut funding for art and music before sports. Is it like that in Russian schools?

Randy · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:24 am Post subject: Schools

Thanks Alice that does give me a much better understanding of the Russian education system, and it will be something to discuss with my associates at more length. I learn something everyday........

AliceFromMoscow · WayToRussified Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 411

I forgot one detail. We dont have 4th grade... From 3rd you go straight to 5th Very Happy

jbourneID90734

For all Russians: why would a Soviet citizen like Mikhail Gorbachev planned to D-E-F-E-C-T for the United States?

Why would Mikhail Gorbachev betrayed the U.S.S.R., for new ideologies of perestroika and glasnosts and replace the Soviet Communism (government or the public produces the goods and services for common people), as it is often contrast against the U.S. Democratic-Capitalism system (private ownership of goods and services)?

Why would Mikhail Gorbachev allow a Coup-De-E'tat to blast the Kremlin Palace with Boris Yeltsin's private guards by overthrowing Communist Party?

Back in 1989, why would the U.S.S.R. pulled out its troops out of Afghanistan---the original place where Alexander The Great expanded his Macedonian Empire during 363 B.C.---just for the the CIA-supported agent Osama Bin Laden [the future "U.S. Terror Attacks on 9/11Mastermind"] would allow to fight against the Soviet troops?

Finally, why would a Soviet-Communist citizen--Mikhail Gorbachev--allowed to earn an infamous-Western "Nobel Peace Prize" by crushing Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Government in December 25, 1991? Is it just for his gain or is it for just for the gain of U.S.A.'s excuse to surrender for Cold War?[/i]

Anathema

Please tell me English is not your first language.

blaked

Yeah - Nobel Prize winners are but foot soldiers in a war waged by neo-imperialist agents against gloriously homosexual socialism. Running-dog lackeys such as Linus Pauling and Marie Curie had always, historically met in secret with infamous capitalists such as Nelson Rockefeller, Yegor Gaidar, Scrooge McDuck and C. Montgomery Burns to discuss their plans for vivisecting the workers paradise that was communist Russia. What know they, the so called intellectuals, of the glory of living in a komunalki or a khokhol or a one room khruschevki apartment?

jbourneID90734

1. What do the Russians think about their government being influenced by the United States to become a democratic federal republic? Will Russia becoming like the U.S.A. but called the "United States of Russia"?

2. What do all Russian people think about their government being a "puppet" and a "dog" of the United States?

3. For all Russians, is it possible to restructure the former-Soviet Union? Meaning, is it possible to reconstruct the befalled government of the Union of Soviet and Socialist Republics?

4. Finally, do the Russian people believe that their "democracy" will become the real enemies of the following beliefs called by U.S.A. as TERRORISM = corruption, illegal trading, black market, aristocracy, czarism, monarchy, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, perestroika, glasnosts, imperialism, communism, buddhism, islam, hinduism, zoroastrianism, confusianism, and christianity?

AliceFromMoscow · WayToRussified Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 411

Camrade · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject:

2jbourneID90734
hey, that's provocation Smile

Russia has a nuclear weapons, lots of nuclear weapons, nuclear trains (with ballistic rockets in it), nuclear submarines. And that's the only thing why we have a different opinion with the politics of the U.S. and that's why our government is not a "puppet" of them. Сause countries which don't have nuclear weapons - are under the influence...
About "United States of Russia" - it's nonsense. Smile

where did you find out this?
To restructure Soviet Union as possible as to restructure Roman Empire for italians Smile

Intourist

Mogsfan · WayToRussified Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490

I agree with most of you guys but I think Russia is in MAJOR trouble. Russia is losing it's "sphere of influence." That's why they tried to control the Ukrainian election. Russia discarded the Soviet but replaced it with something equally totalitarian (well, almost) with the illusion of democracy. Well, the Russian government seems to allow democratic principles to just an extent as it suits them as long as they retain considerable power and control. The difference with Western states is that in the West, people get outraged and criticize their rulers rather harshly and are outspoken (even if it's in small numbers).

Russia watched while former republics broke away and the EU expanded eastwards. I think Russia is in danger of becoming heavily influenced and controlled by China. Russia's economy is not doing much (is it?) but China's is expanding rapidly and already is a factor economically for most Western nations. China has a huge trade surplus. What does Russia export? I guess Russia has oil ( going for them). Putin and co., imho, are striving for an authoritarian reign on the country and are gradually eroding rights, freedoms and abilities to contest their policies. What they will do at a certain point (that is, if it's major), I do not know. But, I think it's rather shortsighted and unfortunate if Russians sit idly by and let it all happen (because things are so much better than in Soviet days).

AliceFromMoscow · WayToRussified Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 411