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Beatbone Just Starting Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Berlin (Germany) (germania)	Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:42 pm    Post subject: DJ @ russia hi. I look and search for contacts @ the russian club scene ,to work as DJ there. Has anybody ideas where to start or links to look @? thanx Stefan from Berlin
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brandalpayne11 Talk Show Host Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 245 Location: NC, US	Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: DJ @ russia Beatbone wrote: hi. I look and search for contacts @ the russian club scene ,to work as DJ there. Has anybody ideas where to start or links to look @? thanx Stefan from Berlin Contact Dimitri, he has helped me. I'm a dj in the US, Pm me for more info
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Dan23 Frequent Guest Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 53 Location: Davis, CA	Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:19 am    Post subject: I'm curious, is there a vibrant DJ/underground scene in Russia? I've been told by Russians (and it seems to be true) that all pop music over there is either American or an imitation thereof. It seems a little strange to me that Russia would not have formed its own underground, slightly rebellious youth music movements. I know that American pop/rock music is largely imported from the UK, and electronic music was inspired by Germany*. But I also know that US artists have taken these things and adopted them as their own, and produced some of the best music in the field. So, how about Russia/former USSR? -Dan P.S. I realize that non-mainstream, by definition, is out of the spotlight and hard to find from half a world away, so I hope that's why it appears not to exist. *The only truly American-born music, I think, has come from the black community. (Country I don't consider to be music).
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Dan23 Frequent Guest Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 53 Location: Davis, CA	Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Dan23 wrote: I've been told by Russians (and it seems to be true) that all pop music over there is either American or an imitation thereof. It seems a little strange to me that Russia would not have formed its own underground, slightly rebellious youth music movements. Okay, I quote myself here to point out that this doesn't quite make sense, and to answer for it. How can I be talking about pop music and underground at the same time? I have plenty of contempt for American pop/mainstream music. That's not what I'm after. I'm wondering about the Russian creative scene, both pre- and post-Soviet. I suspect that anything truly counterculture in the Soviet era couldn't really flourish, but nowadays there must be some kind of scene. Dan
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Dr-Fauste Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654	Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:13 pm    Post subject: THere is no Russian punk scene at all in comparison. The only rebel band I heard was Leningrad and rest of the music was sugar pop. In my two weeks, I saw NO skateboarders and no punks. It was completely vanilla. But Europe is more vanilla that NA.
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AliceFromMoscow WayToRussified Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 411	Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: Dr Fauste wrote: THere is no Russian punk scene at all in comparison. The only rebel band I heard was Leningrad and rest of the music was sugar pop. In my two weeks, I saw NO skateboarders and no punks. It was completely vanilla. But Europe is more vanilla that NA. well maybe there are not so many punks or skateboarders here, but if you havent seen/heard of them, it doesnt mean they dont exist
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Dr-Fauste Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654	Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Look at the big word. Quote: THere is no Russian punk scene at all in comparison You cannot argue my point after that, because Alice you have never been outside your country. Almost every kid in Canada owns a skateboard and listens to some style punk rock whether is the cheesey Green Day or old school Exploited. There is more angst in American music. Teenagers are much more rebellious here. In comparison, Russia has non existant rebelious music scene. If anything Russian are rebellious through Rap, than punk.
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wavetossed WayToRussified Joined: 27 Jun 2004 Posts: 339	Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Russian kids don't need to rebel because they have far more social freedoms than American or Canadian kids. There is no system preventing Russian kids from doing what they want to do. They have no need to rebel, they just get on with life.
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Dan23 Frequent Guest Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 53 Location: Davis, CA	Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:22 am    Post subject: wavetossed, That's interesting. Please explain further. What kind of social freedoms do American and Canadian kids not have? I value rebellion for its own sake, and I hold it as a given that there will always be something to rebel against, just to keep your mind and your sense of youth vital. If it were Russia, the government would be the obvious target. Here in America the government is also an obvious target, but so is wasteful consumerism, and so is the expectation that everyone do spectacularly in school and follow the beaten path. Dan
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Dr-Fauste Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654	Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Quote: Russian kids don't need to rebel because they have far more social freedoms than American or Canadian kids. There is no system preventing Russian kids from doing what they want to do. They have no need to rebel, they just get on with life. Wrong,. Because I had as much or more freedom than an average Russian kid. I was raised to explore my limits of thinking and such. Tell how as NA kid, I was limited and Russian kids were not. No offence, I really do not think that you understand the punk movement at all. I was in it and I know why the kids "rebelled".
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Mogsfan WayToRussified Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490	Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:49 am    Post subject: Quote: Russian kids don't need to rebel because they have far more social freedoms than American or Canadian kids. There is no system preventing Russian kids from doing what they want to do. They have no need to rebel, they just get on with life. Here is the third critque of your comments: Let's see. Punk is often inspired by the politics of the day. You don't think Russians have anything to rebel about, politically speaking?!? Egads...
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Mogsfan WayToRussified Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490	Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Quote: If anything Russian are rebellious through Rap, than punk.
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Dan23 Frequent Guest Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 53 Location: Davis, CA	Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:49 am    Post subject: Quote: Right. The only Russian rap I've heard is Децл, which doesn't even have a pretense of being "real" at all - it's just a blatant ripoff of Eminem. This is why I'm wondering what's out there. I don't expect every country to come up with their own musical genre from scratch, but they must do something well. If there's a political/street-level rap scene in Russia, or at least something respectably original, please drop some names so I can try to check them out. Dan
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Dr-Fauste Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654	Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: If you are looking for a politcal band try Leningrad. Secktor Gaza is now defunct. Leningrad is basically Russian Political Ska version of the Pogue. I love them!!! Mogs, the Punks were more rebelious about their lives than politics. They were kids that felt left out and such. Many punks were picked off by Hari Krishnas, Skin Headed and even Religious right.THey also started a straight edge movement which was more political and SHARPs who very political. The bands dealted with issues that society at the time would not deal with like suicide, drugs, abuse, and such. Punk movement was a social conscience of the Rejected. Rap also deals with similar issues about the world around them. THat is why there is corellation between good punk music and who is power in WAshington. Punk music is a scream for help!!! To answer wavessed, I think you are wrong, because Russia has a high alcohol, drug and suicide problem. I think there is LOTS for the average youth to scream about. I love to see a straight edge and SHARP movement in Russia. Group of punks to say that Alcohol and drugs are bad and Skinheads are cowards.
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